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80ktsClamp 02-13-2013 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1351801)
IDK why the NC made it applicable to domestic flying too. Maybe they tried otherwise and were unsuccessful. People should keep in mind that reserves will be able to pick up extra days for extra money. It will happen.

Well, they had to make getting rid of trip parking staffing neutral to positive for the company. ;)

forgot to bid 02-13-2013 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1351839)
Well if you bid 4 days on you can usually escape SC. The scheds seem to pick the 5 days grouping first and then 4 then 3. I may not sit SC at all this month.

I was commenting that line holders usually want to stay line holders right? Well in March so many of them bid reserve that lines went waaaaaaay junior.

yeah that happened on the 737 as well, a buddy of mine near the bottom held a line but it had nine days in a row with no days off. Three back to back three days.

buzzpat 02-13-2013 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1351879)
yeah that happened on the 737 as well, a buddy of mine near the bottom held a line but it had nine days in a row with no days off. Three back to back three days.

Thats happened to me a couple of times. Gets most of the month done fairly quickly though.

80ktsClamp 02-13-2013 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1351879)
yeah that happened on the 737 as well, a buddy of mine near the bottom held a line but it had nine days in a row with no days off. Three back to back three days.

That's a bunch of UIO and 3 days with 30 hour layovers I bet. :)

forgot to bid 02-13-2013 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1351887)
That's a bunch of UIO and 3 days with 30 hour layovers I bet. :)

ah, you're going to make me look it up. I think there was only one 30 hour layover.

Okay, it's actually 3 3-days, 1 day off, 3 day. So 1 calendar day off in 13.

Very 88 like with all turns out of ATL but the 88 doesn't do the EYW turns worth 4 hours. In that stint he has BHM/PHL/BHM/EYW, then MIA/TUL/EYW, then MIA/GSO/EYW, then MBJ/RDU/SAT. Three of the four trips have 30 hour layovers in TUL, GSO and RDU.

It's all commutable, starts around 1400 and ends at 1400 but no red-eyes.

Other than the EYW, it's all in and out of ATL to 88 places.

Bucking Bar 02-13-2013 02:33 PM

Gentlemen, gentlemen,

When Alpha's right, he's right.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1351311)
I found out a long time ago that if you step up and actually do something to improve pilots' lives, rather than just writing about it on a webboard, that you will subject yourself to this type of personal attack.

Very true. Can't really criticize the guy who does not do anything.

Those in the service of our pilots, many of whom I might disagree with, still share our goals as Delta pilots. IMHO it is disrespectful and inappropriate to attack them personally. Besides, it just does not move the ball down the field. Name calling is not the sort of objective information that makes anyone stop and reconsider ....

When engaging our Reps, MEC and Admin they have always been professional and thoughtful. I am sorry to say that we have not always given them the same respect they give us (even when we disagree).

Based on some first hand observations, I do not believe Slowplay is quoting from MEC talking points. For starters, the MEC is meeting this week, not in the sand box with us.

I for one appreciate Slow and Sailing being here ... it would be awfully boring if our forum was simply an echo chamber for malcontents. A diversity of viewpoints is interesting.

forgot to bid 02-13-2013 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1351872)
Well, they had to make getting rid of trip parking staffing neutral to positive for the company. ;)

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forgot to bid 02-13-2013 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1351938)
T IMHO it is disrespectful and inappropriate to attack them personally. Besides, it just does not move the ball down the field. Name calling is not the sort of objective information that makes anyone stop and reconsider ....

It's a one way street? I don't really agree with that whatsoever. You can't be as ugly as Alfa is then play the victim card. No way.

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Bucking Bar 02-13-2013 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1351950)
It's a one way street? I don't really agree with that.

Well, when they went personal on me, it was wrong. When others go after them, does not make it right. My religious leader, Ty Webb, used to say "two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left."

In fact, for bonus point on APC, if you must insult someone, do it by quoting Ty Webb:

"Your uncle molests collies."

P.S. Brake check the tailgating cop. Bonus points if he is checking his e-mail or mid way through a sip of coffee.


Carl Spackler 02-13-2013 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1351938)
Gentlemen, gentlemen,

When Alpha's right, he's right.
Very true. Can't really criticize the guy who does not do anything.

Really Bar? If you're not a union official - you're not doing anything? You can't really mean that.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1351938)
Those in the service of our pilots, many of whom I might disagree with, still share our goals as Delta pilots. IMHO it is disrespectful and inappropriate to attack them personally.

What about those in the "service" of our pilots who respond to posts this way:


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1332189)
The revenge of the angry red book guy comes out again. Look at your heroes at USAPA getting run over now by events a new union will not help you in your quest. Just wait until two years from now when the fences come down, you will be able to hear carl scream all the way from Florida.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1351938)
I am sorry to say that we have not always given them the same respect they give us (even when we disagree).

Again, read the above post from our esteemed former MEC bureaucrat and highlight the respect shown? And this is just one example. There are numerous other comments of "brick thrower", "keyboard warriors", etc. I'm quite surprised given the above that you can only counsel the non union official against personal attack and petty name calling.

Discussing what these union officials did in an open and straightforward manner is healthy. There should be no attempt to silence that process by portraying it as personal attack. This propensity to automatically give the benefit of the doubt to whomever is in power, is exactly how we got into this position. A position that most recently gave us the Pinnacle agreement without any DALPA involvement whatsoever.

Carl


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