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Scoop 03-02-2013 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1363442)
Why on gods earth do they allow weekend coverage to go so low? They have 50+ sittin reserve M-Th and come F-Su they have 9. The money that the company pi$$es away on GS. If anything they should have more coverage on weekends as that is when people tend to call in sick more often. I can hold weekends off on reserve so I shouldn't complain but I like weekdays off too now and then and would love to see more balanced staffing. WT-Eff?? Over



Really?? You want more guys to be on call over the weekend? The reason we have 50+ during the week is that we are overstaffed. Once the weekends have adequate coverage most guys bid the weekends off.

And if by "pi$$ing away money" you mean Pilot compensation, I say its a start. Remember the pilots had their defined benefit pensions canceled or frozen while management was getting bonuses to do it. Remember we took a 42% pay-cut and are still not back to 2001 wages.

If you are concerned about the company paying too much to the employees, which I admit is noble, start by taking a look at the plethora of VPs and/or Asst VPs. I bet not many of them are being compensated at or below 2001 levels.

Scoop

forgot to bid 03-02-2013 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1363458)
Why do people get excited about possible new "replacement" aircraft?

We are just excited to replace them. It's all relative.

johnso29 03-02-2013 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1363458)
Why do people get excited about possible new "replacement" aircraft?

Because they aren't all "replacement" aircraft. Hence, the scheduled growth over the next several years.

Columbia 03-02-2013 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1363468)
Because they aren't all "replacement" aircraft. Hence, the scheduled growth over the next several years.

Careful- you just took 2 years off your life. :D

johnso29 03-02-2013 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1363472)
Careful- you just took 2 years off your life. :D

Don't worry. My NHL team is in a terrible slump. I'm extremely pessimistic about their ability to turn it around. It's all about balance. :D

Doug Masters 03-02-2013 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1363448)
Not our problem to solve. GS awards going out is good. That's nothing to complain about.

Have to disagree here to some extent. While it might be "good" for the individual to get a GS, collectively I think its bad. We are constantly hearing the phrase "overstaffed" come from Network. This could lead to some MDs to lower paying jets for some junior guys. Not to mention future hiring could be impacted. I wonder how "overstaffed" we would be if everyone just flew their awarded line?

Columbia 03-02-2013 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1363480)
Have to disagree here to some extent. While it might be "good" for the individual to get a GS, collectively I think its bad. We are constantly hearing the phrase "overstaffed" come from Network. This could lead to some MDs to lower paying jets for some junior guys. Not to mention future hiring could be impacted. I wonder how "overstaffed" we would be if everyone just flew their awarded line?

+1. Hiring and overall QOL (no downgraded equipment) would start yesterday.

forgot to bid 03-02-2013 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1363462)
Really?? You want more guys to be on call over the weekend? The reason we have 50+ during the week is that we are overstaffed. Once the weekends have adequate coverage most guys bid the weekends off.

And if by "pi$$ing away money" you mean Pilot compensation, I say its a start. Remember the pilots had their defined benefit pensions canceled or frozen while management was getting bonuses to do it. Remember we took a 42% pay-cut and are still not back to 2001 wages.

If you are concerned about the company paying too much to the employees, which I admit is noble, start by taking a look at the plethora of VPs and/or Asst VPs. I bet not many of them are being compensated at or below 2001 levels.

Scoop

GSs are great don't get me wrong but I think 1067 has a good point. If the 777/744 were massively over staffed but they covered all the trips via GSs and had no issues, is that a good thing or bad thing?

I say bad for the same reason I'd rather return to the bow wave, I want more people in every category, not less. Even if it caps the hours I can get paid.

Same with weekend coverage, if they can live with 50 during the week, hope about 50 on the weekend. That's increase the number of pilots.

Purple Drank 03-02-2013 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1363412)
Sounds like some people decided they better get to work burning that unverified sick leave...

Cough cough.

I thought even after the "Verification" requirement kicks in (yet another concessionary item, thanks ALPA), the Man can't ask you anything until after your 5th call per sick year.

Is that 5 one-day trips? or 5 five-day trips? I don't use much sick time, but I hate the feeling of not being trusted by the company to do the right thing.

Moby Dick 03-02-2013 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1363461)
The reality is Captains should be able to put FOs on no fly lists til the only people that can be paired with pilots on either lists are people already on the lists. :D

I brought that very argument up to our CP. His answer: "You are supposed to be able to fly with anyone."

Really? So let's put two pilots in the cockpit who can't work together. Sounds like a good CRM policy to me. :rolleyes:


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