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forgot to bid 03-02-2013 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1363553)
195 and 215 credit actually.... I also got that briefing from scheduling, but that's also when there only were 26 schedulers total...

I've flown with that captain and he's actually a good guy – in fact he was among a group of pilots Delta sued unsuccessfully for not flying extra.

Cheers
George

My understanding is realized which category would be understaffed and went there. Imagine doing that now with 12 days of reserve in a row and what have you.

Either way, my issue is not with the pilots but rather cheering on Greenslippalooza as a good thing.

Schwanker 03-02-2013 10:07 AM

Can someone give the cliff note version of our jumpseat priority on DCI carriers? How do we stack up with our friends on Delta colored metal who kindly fly our passengers for us?

johnso29 03-02-2013 10:12 AM

Disregard....I was thinking non rev. Not Jumpseat. Sorry.

BlueMoon 03-02-2013 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 1363641)
Can someone give the cliff note version of our jumpseat priority on DCI carriers? How do we stack up with our friends on Delta colored metal who kindly fly our passengers for us?

On CPZ, it goes CPZ pilots, DL pilots, DCI pilots, OAL pilots. It was the same at my last DCI carrier.

1. Operating companies pilots
2. Delta Pilots (1st come first on)
3. DCI pilots (1st come first on)
4. OAL pilots (1st come first serve)

With less than15 mins prior to departure it is a free for all...First there first on.

I did get jammed by a gate agent who put a JetBlue pilot on a mainline jumpseat instead of me (a DCI pilot). So not all gate agents know the priority, ask her to verify with the PIC if there is a question (She wouldn't check with the PIC or let me ask).

Schwanker 03-02-2013 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 1363652)
On CPZ, it goes CPZ pilots, DL pilots, DCI pilots, OAL pilots. It was the same at my last DCI carrier.

1. Operating companies pilots
2. Delta Pilots (1st come first on)
3. DCI pilots (1st come first on)
4. OAL pilots (1st come first serve)

With less than15 mins prior to departure it is a free for all...First there first on.

I did get jammed by a gate agent who put a JetBlue pilot on a mainline jumpseat instead of me (a DCI pilot). So not all gate agents know the priority, ask her to verify with the PIC if there is a question (She wouldn't check with the PIC or let me ask).

Thanks. Exactly what I was wondering. I do believe all DCI's are not the same though. Others? I would think it would be on our ALPA jumpseat committee site, but it's not. Thanks again.

ysslah 03-02-2013 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 1363667)
Thanks. Exactly what I was wondering. I do believe all DCI's are not the same though. Others? I would think it would be on our ALPA jumpseat committee site, but it's not. Thanks again.

For Expressjet, mainline pilots and all other DCI pilots are the same priority FWIW.

Schwanker 03-02-2013 11:04 AM

Thx! I believe Pinnacle is as well, unless that changes under the new arrangements. MSA use to be like Compass priorities.

PropDriver 03-02-2013 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 1363641)
Can someone give the cliff note version of our jumpseat priority on DCI carriers? How do we stack up with our friends on Delta colored metal who kindly fly our passengers for us?

At Pinnacle:
1. Pinnacle (time of check in)
2. Delta/DCI (time of check in)
3. OAL (time of check in)

Purple Drank 03-02-2013 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1363609)
I can't believe you see this as inadequate or concessionary. The only time the company has access to this provision is if they believe that there was something going on besides you being sick (i.e. they have enough other proof to hammer you)

Thank you for your condescending and completely short-sighted reply.

Your argument sounds an awful like the stuff you hear from gun control zealots: "Why would you want an assault rifle unless you're going on a killing spree?"

I'm not worried about "getting mine;" I rarely call in sick. I'm not necessarily even worried about that stipulation now or in the immediate future. But "this is the way it's worked in the past" is a p!ss poor substitute for ironclad contractual protection (which, historically, we shouldn't expect from ALPA).

I'm concerned that future leadership administrations will use this to take hostages if things get heated in future contract talks, etc. (not that's even possible with ALPA on their side).

Have you seen what Smisek, Horton, Parker, Tilton, etc. have tried to pull? If you think Sleepy Ed or the next sociopath to run the company won't come after us with every loophole they can find if we start growing a spine, I guess I can't help you.

Wouldn't it be nice if ALPA thought a few moves ahead? Think of it as chess, not "go fish."

SailorJerry 03-02-2013 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1363698)
Thank you for your condescending and completely short-sighted reply.

Your argument sounds an awful like the stuff you hear from gun control zealots: "Why would you want an assault rifle unless you're going on a killing spree?"

I'm not worried about "getting mine;" I rarely call in sick. I'm not necessarily even worried about that stipulation now or in the immediate future. But "this is the way it's worked in the past" is a p!ss poor substitute for ironclad contractual protection (which, historically, we shouldn't expect from ALPA).

I'm concerned that future leadership administrations will use this to take hostages if things get heated in future contract talks, etc. (not that's even possible with ALPA on their side).

Have you seen what Smisek, Horton, Parker, Tilton, etc. have tried to pull? If you think Sleepy Ed or the next sociopath to run the company won't come after us with every loophole they can find if we start growing a spine, I guess I can't help you.

Wouldn't it be nice if ALPA thought a few moves ahead? Think of it as chess, not "go fish."

Would you rather have it the way it is now, or the way it was before?

You're welcome. I appreciate the same in return.


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