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forgot to bid 03-31-2013 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1382879)
It looked to me like a couple of the guys on the bench might have passed out! They just fell to the floor and didn't get up.

Well I'll say this rewatching, #11 came off the bench and went towards him and was the player consoling him on the floor. Watch it again and you'll see him come from the left side of the bench before they cut away.

But I'll say it again and don't really care if it sounds insensitive, when someone is in obvious need you hope that people are willing to run toward someone laying alone in need than spend their time reacting.

The Cavalier 03-31-2013 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1382891)
I'm a Chapel Hill boy. Duke blows.:D

I'm a Charlottesville boy and I'll add Coach K is a foul mouthed cry baby. What was his excuse today post game?

80ktsClamp 03-31-2013 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1382903)
Uh, what was the captain doing? Charter doesn't run the airline.

He was watching me make phone calls and would say every once in a while "wow this makes no sense... I don't get it." He didn't care as much as he was a commuter.

Both the charter coordinators refused to put our names on the Gen Dec, and I had caused about as much of a fuss as I was willing to do. So, I'll be putting that in my report. :)

Be forewarned, it is intl military charter policy to not allow crewmembers to ride in the back when empty unless you are scheduled to deadhead on that aircraft. I'll do my part in fighting the good fight, and hopefully others will as well. Sure would have been nice to both get home to my son early as well as save the company money.

nwaf16dude 03-31-2013 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1382917)
He was watching me make phone calls and would say every once in a while "wow this makes no sense... I don't get it." He didn't care as much as he was a commuter.

Both the charter coordinators refused to put our names on the Gen Dec, and I had caused about as much of a fuss as I was willing to do. So, I'll be putting that in my report. :)

Be forewarned, it is intl military charter policy to not allow crewmembers to ride in the back when empty unless you are scheduled to deadhead on that aircraft. I'll do my part in fighting the good fight, and hopefully others will as well. Sure would have been nice to both get home to my son early as well as save the company money.

That happened to me during the summer of 2011 on a domestic mil charter. We finished up in AEX and the jet was ferrying to ATL. Lots of phone calls and lots of no's. The captain really pushed hard to get on, but we ended up laying over and doing the scheduled deadhead the next day. Made no sense at all.

80ktsClamp 03-31-2013 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1382921)
That happened to me during the summer of 2011 on a domestic mil charter. We finished up in AEX and the jet was ferrying to ATL. Lots of phone calls and lots of no's. The captain really pushed hard to get on, but we ended up laying over and doing the scheduled deadhead the next day. Made no sense at all.

Their justification was customs stuff with it being an intl mil charter (which when I got them to explain the nitty gritty was not actually valid, but at that point it was like tugging at a stubborn mule). The duty pilot and scheduling both said no problem, go for it. It is the charter department that is the sole push back here. They would have had no legs to stand on not allowing us to ride in the back on a domestic leg.

forgot to bid 03-31-2013 05:38 PM

Who said beware of the 717 because of 5 leg days? It's hard to find a MD88 trip without 5 leg days.

80ktsClamp 03-31-2013 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1382929)
Who said beware of the 717 because of 5 leg days? It's hard to find a MD88 trip without 5 leg days.

Trying to justify your move? :)

Come over to the airbus, I've seen (but thankfully have not flown) 6 leg days here!

filejw 03-31-2013 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1382837)
Ok, so who messed up our ability to ride in the back on an intl MIL ferry back to base?

As a result, we had to have transportation to the layover, the hotel, and then we bumped 2 paying pax off of a full regular intl flight this morning since it is now the charter dept policy to not let us ride in the back on an empty airplane. Oh...except the FAs were deadheading on said empty airplane. Even the duty pilot and scheduling were dumbfounded...


I'm guessing I'll be seeing plenty of replays of the accident ya'll are talking about!

Been that way for awhile and it started with AMC from what I have been told. If they plan it in advance they can get permission like said FA's but to off rotation DH has been next to impossable at least on the 744 .Apperantly as long as they are still paying we use AMC rules.

80ktsClamp 03-31-2013 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by filejw (Post 1382934)
Been that way for awhile and it started with AMC from what I have been told. If they plan it in advance they can get permission like said FA's but to off rotation DH has been next to impossable at least on the 744 .Apperantly as long as they are still paying we use AMC rules.

They kept on talking about HHN, the 744, and FAs having to bump piles of paying pax off of aircraft to get back to the states while the plane left empty.

GunshipGuy 03-31-2013 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1382894)
How old was Joe T. when his injury happened? Rick Pitino post game said a football player suffered the same injury and was back in one year. The kid is young, so I think his chances of bouncing back are good.

I'd be curious to hear from an expert if this is just more gruesome to see than a bad ACL, but easier to recover from, or if it's worse in both ways.


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