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Originally Posted by SJUflyer
(Post 1393513)
To all u talking about rotation rate and pitch rate...when is an airplane ready to fly while rolling down the runway....simple aerodynamics....and if u know you will use the proper term !!!!
And I do believe goddam is the proper term. |
Originally Posted by FrankCobretti
(Post 1393638)
It's ready to fly when I goddam well tell it it's ready to fly.
And I do believe goddam is the proper term. |
Originally Posted by Schwanker
(Post 1393631)
Was that overseas one at Diego Garcia? I remember one sitting on the ramp for quite a while back in 2002 (just a few months after the guys punched out of one just north of the island). Gucci boyz did a fine job on that S&R.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1393478)
They say the blast registered a 2.1 earthquake.
Firefighters missing after massive, deadly Texas blast - CNN.com |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 1393623)
Thanks Timbo,
You had to remind me that I was previously able to hold all SNA lines on the LAX 737 (sparing Buzz the long drive south) until they totally disappeared from our Bid package. Still hoping for some SNA this summer. Scoop :) |
Originally Posted by orvil
(Post 1393493)
This is way to technical for me. I flew the 727. You set 6 degrees and let it fly off.
On the other hand, watching rotation through the HUD, my FO's scare the shxt out me on a regular basis. Oops...Orvil just got awarded TOTD! |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1393484)
Guys still talk about the SVO 763 tail strike. I hear it periodically still.
BTW, here is a pic Авиационный форум AVIAFORUM.RU - Показать сообщение отдельно - Шереметьево от SVOих. Makes you wonder about the Aeromexico 762 That being said...savvy long-term 767ER pilots almost always do the 2-step method of slightly rotating and getting it off the ground and waiting a few moments and then rotating on up to 12-15 degrees and watch the speed. The 767 is particularly prone to flap overspeeds because we're using flaps 5 and as you push over on the NADP1 profile...it accelerates like a raped ape. Carl brought up a point that has not been mentioned much. In the Qual Stds for Q and CQ, we grade V2+10. The weights we'd been using make it really hard to meet the speed standards and consequently the focus has been on V2+10 and not properly flying the plane. So....we went back and adjusted the Qual Std and now the emphasis is not on V2+10. The SVO debacle was just that. FO on cherry flight. Never did a heavyweight 767 takeoff. Complex departure, metric altitudes, low altitude hold-down and not english-proficient ATC. Capt lets the "fully certified" FO do the takeoff. They were within 500 lbs of max gross weight. FO "snatches" the plane off the runway, scrapes the tail. Capt tells the FO to continue flying and he and RF will work the problem (like we learn in CQ). FO blows through altitude, misses the radio switch and now they're NORDO and climbing to the moon. Not our best effort by a long shot. The company wanted to fry the FO and when cooler heads prevailed, they considered the Capt's action. May have been mucho better to let Junior watch the TO and let the experienced RF or Capt do it. The Threat was an inexperienced FO.....but the Capt probably should've recognized a better solution instead of just blindly following what we always do.... |
Cohiba,
Great post. Pretty informative. |
Are there qualifiers for white slips like there are for yellow slips? I wanted to put in an open white slip but only wanted to designate international layovers.
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Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1393773)
Cohiba,
Great post. Pretty informative. Gotta admit putting myself in the newbie F/O's shoes I'd feel awful. I'm glad "cooler heads prevailed". Having flown in Russia (during my 727 days) Russian controllers mastery of the English language is marginal at best. Add in the metric altimetry and everything else going on and the poor guy was set up for failure. |
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