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JungleBus 04-02-2013 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1383926)
717 ALV for may is already 84. Things sure escalated quickly.

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XtremeF150 04-02-2013 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1384086)
What really irks me, for the past oh...30 years, the idiots on TV have failed to acknowledge the 500lb. Gorilla in the room...

FUEL PRICES!

Gas at the pump is over $3.50 today, what was it 30 years ago? 75 cents? Less? The cost of Jet Fuel has gone up at least 300% in the past 30 years, yet airline ticket prices have not gone up at all.

Not at all.

In 30 years.

You can still buy a ticket today on Air Tran for $49. You cannot drive to the airport and park your car for that.

The Talking Heads refuse to admit they should be paying well over $1,000 one way, every coach ticket, for a one hour flight. But they are still paying $100-300.

Same as in 1985, when Av Gas was about 70 cents a gallon.

The price of everything else in the world had gone up at least 300% in the past 30 years, yet airline ticket prices are about the same as they were back then.

So...where did the "Difference" come from? Who has been paying for the huge run up in Av Gas prices over the past 30 years, if not the ticket buyers??

Look in your DB retirement plan and check your paycheck, then you'll see who's been paying for it. We are still being paid at 30 year old rates.

These TV Tools who spout off about how they are being raped by the airlines, need to pull their heads out and do some basic math. Inflation adjusted from 1985, they should be paying over $3,000 for a ticket from JFK to LAX today, yet they are still only paying $300.

Thank GOD (or Dog for you dyslexic agnostics) the Majors are finally consolidating and have stopped undercutting each other with stupid fare wars. Extra Fees? Yeah, fk you, pay me!

Yeah it really puts it in perspective if you tour our musuem in ATL and read the boards in front of the original DAL a/c. Really don't remember the type of a/c, just that it was a single engine we started service with from Mississippi to Texas for about $250 a ticket. I'm sure you can still fly from MS to TX for about the same price.....over 80 years later :rolleyes:

Wilbur Wright 04-02-2013 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1384044)
Where are the May ALV's posted? I don't see the bid packages out yet and I couldn't back door them.

DeltaNet>>Crew Resources and Scheduling>>ALVs & RLLs (Left hand column near the bottom)

Columbia 04-03-2013 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1384079)
Sports? I don't even have time for 4 hours of sports watching and I haven't figured out what the plan is there.

Then how will you catch your war eagles in the Beef 'O Brady's Bowl? :D

Bucking Bar 04-03-2013 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1384073)
The guy who ratchets up a panic for the #3 tire being blown or when an American MD-80 is about to land nose wheel up he gives you the great insight that the pilots will shutdown the engines before the nose hits to save them from damage....

Since everything that the Douglas runs over ends up getting sucked into the inlets ... a borescope inspection on a JT8D has to be like a doing a colonoscopy on Slowplay.

Since the nosewheel steering doesn't really work that well, the handling of the airplane would not be any more compromised than it already is. Can't you hear ops on the radio "can you taxi to the gate?"

sinca3 04-03-2013 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1384089)
BTW, I'm digging holding a line.

I see why 80% of the pilots here do it. :D

Besides, they cut so many reserves on the 88, you don't want to touch weekends off reserve.

Yeah, weekend trips usually suck but reserve is for the birds!

Bucking Bar 04-03-2013 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1384086)
FUEL PRICES!

Same as in 1985, when Av Gas was about 70 cents a gallon.

$8.20 a gallon in Orlando for 100LL. The problem is not the price of fuel, it is local government and monopolistic FBO's who have figured out how to turn the Federally funded pavement into a cash cow for friends and family of the local politicians. Here is a sample bill IN ADDITION TO the fuel:

Originally Posted by AvWeb review
**Handling Charge.......................$22.00
**Handling Charge Abv Minimum.-$22.00
**Fed [email protected]....$12.42
**Airport Fee........ [email protected].......$3.20
**Ramp Parking......3 nights@32/night...$96.00
Subtotal $520.32
**State sales tax........................$6.24 **GOAA...................................$11.38
Grand Total $537.94

It used to be that Pop's FBO realized the promotion of aviation through reasonably priced rentals and training meant aircraft sales, repair work and tie down fees. Today what I see are predators killing off the few unfortunate animals that wander up to the water hole for a drink. That water hole is drying up and the remaining animals are endangered. As this has occurred the predators have become more vicious. Every time my bonanza gets chased down the ramp by a line guy in a golf cart I feel as though my wallet is being hunted.

In my consulting business (often working for airports) I make it clear that I will not pay these fees. If they try to charge me, I will either refuse to work for them, or add it to my bill and send it right back to them.

Bucking Bar 04-03-2013 05:19 AM

FOX 5 just reported Delta is "shrinking toilets" to add 4 rows of seats.

Timbo 04-03-2013 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1384199)
$8.20 a gallon in Orlando for 100LL. The problem is not the price of fuel, it is local government and monopolistic FBO's who have figured out how to turn the Federally funded pavement into a cash cow for friends and family of the local politicians. Here is a sample bill IN ADDITION TO the fuel:
It used to be that Pop's FBO realized the promotion of aviation through reasonably priced rentals and training meant aircraft sales, repair work and tie down fees. Today what I see are predators killing off the few unfortunate animals that wander up to the water hole for a drink. That water hole is drying up and the remaining animals are endangered. As this has occurred the predators have become more vicious. Every time my bonanza gets chased down the ramp by a line guy in a golf cart I feel as though my wallet is being hunted.

In my consulting business (often working for airports) I make it clear that I will not pay these fees. If they try to charge me, I will either refuse to work for them, or add it to my bill and send it right back to them.


Wow, no wonder GA is dying!

I'm paying $4.65/gallon for 100LL but without all the added fees you're getting hit with.

The local FBO is down to only 1 instructor and 2 airplanes, where once he had 3 full time IP's and 5 airplanes. At $170/hr. dual, not too many people are able to afford flying lessons. He does a lot of engine overhaul and repair work, that's about the only thing keeping him in business.

Yet the talking heads on TV are mad because they have to pay bag fees...on top of their $200 tickets. GMAFB. I've got an idea; take the bus! See how that works out for you. :rolleyes:

capncrunch 04-03-2013 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1384202)
FOX 5 just reported Delta is "shrinking toilets" to add 4 rows of seats.

Those are some big toilets...;)


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