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Originally Posted by DeadHead
(Post 1380079)
Just a friendly side note here....The phrase "contingent upon" does not work as well with the wife as it does with the DAL pilot group.
In case any of you were thinking about using it around the house. |
Originally Posted by DAWGS
(Post 1380074)
FTB is an APC rock star! Guy should be on the payroll!
http://static.awkwardfamilyphotos.co...2214881220.jpg or, in reality, http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XU9x8G7khv...ter_repair.jpg |
Originally Posted by Avgwhitemale
(Post 1380082)
Telling your wife you will "baby sit" your kids will also draw a long lecture. I guess a Dad cannot baby sit his kids....:rolleyes:
Now I use it all of the time. |
Originally Posted by Schwanker
(Post 1380076)
Which is why switching July & August to 30 day bid months was a huge concession. I believe this will have a significant impact in head count going forward.
I agree - the 30 day summer issue is huge. This is an oversimplification but should explain the issue. Basically those are the two most demanding months as far as manning is concerned. By reducing those months to only 30 days from 31 you are basically "gaining" about a 3% increase in capability from the Pilot group. The fact that the flying is shifted to other less demanding months is why this helps the company - those months are not limited. In my opinion this can be a much bigger factor than the Reserve ALV+15 issue simply because it affects 100% of DAL Pilots while the Reserve ALV issue will only affect a small portion of the Reserve Pilots - who are themselves only a portion of all DAL Pilots. Scoop |
Originally Posted by Free Bird
(Post 1379704)
I heard the statement "Richard Anderson isn't comfortable with how little our pilots fly in the winter". |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 1380093)
I agree - the 30 day summer issue is huge.
This is an oversimplification but should explain the issue. Basically those are the two most demanding months as far as manning is concerned. By reducing those months to only 30 days from 31 you are basically "gaining" about a 3% increase in capability from the Pilot group. The fact that the flying is shifted to other less demanding months is why this helps the company - those months are not limited. In my opinion this can be a much bigger factor than the Reserve ALV+15 issue simply because it affects 100% of DAL Pilots while the Reserve ALV issue will only affect a small portion of the Reserve Pilots - who are themselves only a portion of all DAL Pilots. Scoop |
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1380101)
Maybe it's just me but with the company clearly profitable and consolidation ensuring it stays that way....the days of giving more productivity and horse trading work rules for pay should end. My fear is that those who run our union don't agree with this premise. In a job where you spend so many days away from home...to heap more...working more and more and being gone more as well as further stagnating upward movement is not the right way. Maximizing time with family and time at home healthy compensation...that is where we should be headed.
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Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 1380093)
I agree - the 30 day summer issue is huge.
This is an oversimplification but should explain the issue. Basically those are the two most demanding months as far as manning is concerned. By reducing those months to only 30 days from 31 you are basically "gaining" about a 3% increase in capability from the Pilot group. The fact that the flying is shifted to other less demanding months is why this helps the company - those months are not limited. In my opinion this can be a much bigger factor than the Reserve ALV+15 issue simply because it affects 100% of DAL Pilots while the Reserve ALV issue will only affect a small portion of the Reserve Pilots - who are themselves only a portion of all DAL Pilots. Scoop Company Lawyers: Oh, and we want to make a small change to the bid months, you know, just move a day out of July and August. Not a big deal, I'm sure you'll agree. Highly Trained Negotiating Pilots: Won't that result in even less need for hiring to replace the guys we're giving the early retirement packages to? Company Lawyers: No, not really; here, look at these glossy hand outs we made about time-value of money for you to share. It's a win-win. And you really don't want me to mention how we've got plan B lined up, do you? Highly Trained Negotiating Pilots: Well, if you're sure. |
nevermind... :D
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 1379958)
How are we being "fleeced"? I look at the last five years and see continuous pay raises, increases to our retirement, betterment of the pilots QOL via the scheduling section and overall better PWA.
I look at other airlines that do not have "working relationship" with their management and see none of the above [ie: American, USAirways and United/Continental]. It was over 5 years ago that our pensions were bought out for pennies on the dollar and we took over a 40% pay cut, but just recently we lost a third of our profit sharing and gave work rule concessions, to make the most recent TA "mostly" cost neutral. Were these the continuous pay raises you speak of? |
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