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Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1469762)
Widget,
I won't say I know either woman. But, I do know one of them enough to speak to her in passing and had a conversation with her a while back. I can tell you that from the little I know about her, there is a lot in your post that is untrue. I've seen her flying the line numerous times since we first talked. I've seen her in the school house when she was transitioning to another airplane. I even talked to her captain while she was there and he said she was doing a great job. Just a bit of advice. If I were you, I would delete that post. Even though you haven't mentioned names, the people are easily identifiable, and you are disparaging their professional reputation. They could easily come after you for liable and possibly the training guy for slander. I doubt that they would, and I'm not sure that they would win anything significant, but why open yourself to that possibility? |
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Originally Posted by Brocc15
(Post 1469778)
I agree with newKnow. That is a very personal attack on a very public message board. I also know one of the women and she definitely flying the line currently so not only do I know your post is completely incorrect, I really hope she doesn't see it because it is highly offensive and on top of her being a fellow Delta pilot that worked her butt off to get to where she is, she is also a really nice person and doesn't deserve vicious rumors to be spread about her.
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I guess logging on late on a Sunday, you miss "stuff."
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
(Post 1469056)
The thing to keep in mind is if you are behaving ethically wrt sick and only using it for its intended purpose, you will never have anything to worry about.
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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1469821)
Not necessarily. Yeah if you have pneumonia or strep throat or a broken bone, etc then sure, the system is air tight in your favor. See any Dr. in the world, get a note, done. But say you get a mild to moderate stomach ache or feel nauseous or have a headache, etc. There's a metric ton of things you can't/shouldn't legally fly with but aren't "verifiable" by a doctor, ever. So you get sick on or near a weekend, holiday, vacation? How about a block of days surrounded by several days off? Or several day on? You could say literally any sick call is suspicious for one reason or another, and not only a lot but probably most sick calls can never be "doctor verified" because there is no test or method to verify most minor illnesses other than patient testimony. So then what? Bottom line this ridiculous one way sophistry will end up with less sick calls to the company but more pilots flying [just a little?] sick. Guaranteed.
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Originally Posted by biigD
(Post 1469657)
We're Texas. I don't get too worked up about our little brother out in College Station. Spend some time on their campus and you'll see what I mean.
As far as UTenn - you're a Delta pilot on a Delta thread, and I'm merely an applicant. I've got enough SA to avoid saying what I'd like to say. That said, if I'm ever fortunate enough to be hired by you guys, I'll be more than happy to sing "Rocky Top" at the crew room of your choice. :) That's good to know! And it's definitely more comfortable in the front and back! |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1469830)
Well I think almost anyone has a block of days ON surrounded by a block of days OFF. :D
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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1469821)
Not necessarily. Yeah if you have pneumonia or strep throat or a broken bone, etc then sure, the system is air tight in your favor. See any Dr. in the world, get a note, done. But say you get a mild to moderate stomach ache or feel nauseous or have a headache, etc. There's a metric ton of things you can't/shouldn't legally fly with but aren't "verifiable" by a doctor, ever. So you get sick on or near a weekend, holiday, vacation? How about a block of days surrounded by several days off? Or several day on? You could say literally any sick call is suspicious for one reason or another, and not only a lot but probably most sick calls can never be "doctor verified" because there is no test or method to verify most minor illnesses other than patient testimony. So then what? Bottom line this ridiculous one way sophistry will end up with less sick calls to the company but more pilots flying [just a little?] sick. Guaranteed.
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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1469887)
Exactly. Show me any sick call on any pilot's line and I can do aggressive DA looking for a resume padding conviction and come up with something that could be interpreted under the incredibly meaningless standard of "good faith basis" if I wanted to. The only bulwark we have with language that pathetic is the sheer number of inquiries. Its hard for them to come after all of us at once. But they can come after any of us for any reason any time they want. And we gave them that ability through blind trust and that was a mistake. Pilots will fly sick because of this policy. We're accepting some level of intimidation and pilot pushing with unilateral pro company contractual sophistry, perhaps because we were naive or perhaps because we thought it would help monetize something else by reducing over all sick calls and subsequent staffing plans and hoping we get a cut of that. If you have something that can be easily documented, you're bulletproof. For many pilots who just don't feel well however, they will be bullied into flying sick. Just not super duper sick. When pilots worry more about getting an "ops check good, could not duplicate" from a company doctor, they will fly sick. Guaranteed.
In my opinion the new policy "punishes the innocent to protect the guilty". |
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