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forgot to bid 08-24-2013 12:30 PM

The C Series looks awesome.

Fly4hire 08-24-2013 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1469331)
No flamebait here. Did you honestly think there wouldn't be some shrinking as a result of the merger? I know I expected it. UAL is going the though the exact same thing right now.

I don't know about the active just, but since the ISL was released we have lost around 1000 pilots. But due to hiring in 2010, the net loss is less then 1000 pilots.

I'm a pragmatist, agree with your comments, just don't get all giddy over the growth stuff reference the 717/MD's. I was flying Capt. 5 yrs ago and might be able to hold the "new" DC9 again.

boog123 08-24-2013 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1469313)
And how about the 45+ MD90s that have been acquired? Where do they fit in? ;)

So with all these growth 717's, MD90's , etc. why is it the seniority list keeps shrinking? Why hasn't your percentage on the seniority list keep pace with all of the retirements?

iaflyer 08-24-2013 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1469367)
No question the -900 will be perfect for ATL to Florida, and other Mid South cities or even ORD, STL, MCO, BNA, CVG... it's perfect for those types of routes. But the initial routes will be to the west coast...not ideal really for that AC.

I think even ATL/DTW to the West Coast on the -900 will be fine. It's the NYC-West coast that will be a stretch... but with the conversion of 757-200s to the lie-flat seating will take care of that market.

While I personally think it's a step backwards in the cockpit, I think the economics will be fine and fill lots of roles in which the 757-200 are too much airplane (performance wise) right now.

buzzpat 08-24-2013 01:59 PM

Guys, we're already doing BOS, JFK, RDU, ATL, MCO, TPA and MIA to LAX on the -800. The -900 is not going to be blazing any new territory in that regard.

Bucking Bar 08-24-2013 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1469450)
Guys, we're already doing BOS, JFK, RDU, ATL, MCO, TPA and MIA to LAX on the -800. The -900 is not going to be blazing any new territory in that regard.

Yeah, but maybe it wont have the limitation which prohibits day VFR operation.

Or maybe it is just my observation that the -700 never operates during daylight hours and the -800 only flies occasionally in the sun. Every time I see them move they depart at 22:00 and stop at 05:30. If they are still flying at 06:30, then they are required to be in holding awaiting a clearance to an airport with a wet runway.

Southwest operates theirs during the day which must mean they bought off somebody with Pizza and Booze.

But you're wrong about setting records. We'd have a shot at setting a land speed record with a heavy -900 at SLC.

80ktsClamp 08-24-2013 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1469450)
Guys, we're already doing BOS, JFK, RDU, ATL, MCO, TPA and MIA to LAX on the -800. The -900 is not going to be blazing any new territory in that regard.

Does the 900 carry more than 48,800 fuel and have better than 27k engines?

buzzpat 08-24-2013 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1469462)
Does the 900 carry more than 48,800 fuel and have better than 27k engines?

I don't know, I don't have the CD yet. ;)

But Alaska is flying them to Hawaii, so I'd guess yes.

biigD 08-24-2013 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1469458)
But you're wrong about setting records. We'd have a shot at setting a land speed record with a heavy -900 at SLC.

I know your comment was tongue in cheek, but I'm curious - what's the tire limit of the -900? It's not uncommon for us to push up against that limit in the Summer in the -80. Of course, I fly for an ULCC. What could possibly go wrong? ;)

johnso29 08-24-2013 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1469415)
So with all these growth 717's, MD90's , etc. why is it the seniority list keeps shrinking? Why hasn't your percentage on the seniority list keep pace with all of the retirements?

Most likely because we've been overstaffed almost every year post merger. And because we haven't taken delivery of a single 717 yet. Both of those trends are ending.


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