I hear ya! My prediction is that we will merge with someone soon. I dont know with whom, maybe AK or HA. If the long term goal is a merger then we really dont need to hire or buy any new equipment. The new definition of synergy is 2+2 = .2 and this will happen again with a merger, thus negate new hires and additional a/c.

I am against a merger for what it is worth. I would rather grow organically and allow for our stagnant brothers to rise amongst the ranks.

TEN

PS. The number one pilot on the proposed CAL/UA seniority list is a CAL LAX 737 CA.<----paybanding result.

Do you know when he was hired, and was he a Scab?

Why ALPA let the Scabs back in is beyond me. :rolleyes:

I guess United's got some too, so at least they'll have something to talk about when they fly together! I bet it will sound something like this:

"I Screwed YOU more! Ha Ha Ha!"

"No, No, I Screwed YOU more! You Ahole!"

I know why they did. ;)

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Thanks for the edit 80K!

You know when it comes to technology, I'm a comfortably numb caveman! ;)

DOH October 1972. I dont know if he was a scab or not.

TEN

The CAL scabs were, for the most part, 83 hires. Hard to believe anyone is left with a 1972 DOH...wow.

I remember that strike very well, I had to cross through their picket line at the airport on my way to UPT in 1983. I had been flying checks at night for 4 years before joining the Air Guard, and I knew several freight dogs I flew with who did get hired as scabs. They were dicks even before they scabbed.

When I came home 18mo. later, I flew with 4 ex CAL pilots in my Guard Unit who didn't scab. Two went to People Express, and two Guard Bummed until they retired, but we had many informative discussions in the briefing room about CAL, Frank Lorenzo and Scabs. We had 4 Eastern Pilots too so you can imagine the Lorenzo discussions. They were all good guys, I was really ****ed that ALPA didn't do more to protect them and get them jobs at other ALPA carriers.

Sounds like the 1972 guy might have been a CAL guy who went back after the strike was over? But maybe he never left.

I know there were some guys who went out on strike but returned after the strike was declared over, but did not scab. I wondered where they got put on their seniority list though, at their old number, or behind the scabs?

This is not a defense of scabs:

My understanding of the CAL scab situation is that there were true picket line crossing scabs who crossed early. Then there were scabs that fought the good fight, lost everything and crossed much later (a year or more) to put food on the table. Then there was a third group who were told by ALPA - at some level- MEC, LEC or some other level to return to work and they were labeled scabs as well.

I don't know many CAL pilots except a hunting buddy. He says CAL pilots generally made peace with their scabs (in at least the 2 later groups).

When I was at UAL, there was no peace made with the scabs. It was wierd for a fresh off AD guy (me) to deal with it, mostly because the whole (union/airline) thing was so new to me.

Today, with codeshares and sub-contractors, some union and some non-union, it seems to me that flying struck work is a very cloudy picture - to be taken on a flight-by-flight basis. Even then it is unclear to me how to tell if someone is flying struck work.

I'm sure those guys would have a tough time remembering how to tag a youtoobz video on a bulletin board. I remember the first time I heard Pink Floyd, I was in the 7th grade. As soon as I could get my mom to take me to the music store, I bought a Pink Floyd CD. His tone.... just amazing.

41 years... and still on the 737. Why would someone subject themselves to that??