We are. Flight attendant hiring is currently under way.

What would really be nice, would be if Delta Air Lines "returned" that same $Billion to the PILOTS, who gave it up in the first place, to....wait for it...

SAVE DELTA! :eek:

Oh, and that other $500 Million? Put that in our 401K! :rolleyes:

What are you willing to give up in order to fund that?

The pie is only so big you know.

Then we'd be forced to give it to the flight attendants too.

Sorry, just saving the union officials from having to say it.

Carl

Senior Delta leadership recently announced compensation packages heavily weighted in company stock. Brings back memories of Leo the Ceo, but at least then we were making good money and had a pension. It sure is funny how they didn't have another dime for the pilots (according to DALPA), but they were able to do this deal, buy RJ's etc...

Ya know guys, if you don't say "no" once in a while, people start thinking you're a cheap date.

FTB-- Haven't thought of the Dinosaur since the 727 days... glad to hear it's still there!

Voting no is just as easy as voting yes. You just click on "no."

I have no problem with an educated yes vote or an educated no vote. I do have a problem with the reset to bankruptcy wages being the baseline that we have done.

Quite the paradoxical statement, don't you think? Pilots are unable to see "the reality that is right before them" which means the E-VILL ALPA (cue "mwah hah hah hah hah" along with cheesy organ music) can continue their "hidden" agenda?

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A major airline who wants to be unnamed has placed an order for the C Series according to their website.

With a seating capacity up to 160 seats this aircraft is certainly not a regional airliner for the DCI carriers. However, I would not be surprised if a major airline attempted to raise the bar on scope.

If they did, would 68% of the yes voters vote for it ?

Nerd,

That airplane only has 20 seats.

Anyone think of the Atlanta Aquarium when they saw that interior?

Wonder if that scheme makes older people have to pee, or has everyone forgotten.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...Ljtd6lXheLsI-s

something something something we don't negotiate in public, trust your MEC and NC blah blah blah.

Why 68%? 51% is all we need to kiss that flying good bye forever.

Although, why buy the C-Series new if we are getting 88 717s and hopefully (because it was mentioned prior to C2012 signing) a bunch more 717s?

Sure the C-Series rocks but the new 717s will be a big fleet of short range NB aircraft that complements the larger MD-88/90 fleet that's (sorry Bar) "only at it's half life!" Why be the launch customer if we don't need to begin replace those jets for 10 or so years? And while the C-Series might out fly and out range the Douglas equipment, do you really need and is it economically feasible to cover such long thin routes in the U.S.? I mean the C-Series might best everyone on a per hour basis but is the total cost of the route worth financing new equipment over?

I don't think the need, or as they say in business "where is the pain?" is in the 100 seat market. They've got that nailed with 717s and jumbo regional jets like the (probably soon to be 82 seat) E175 and CR9s.

I think the pain is going to be in replacing the 757 capacity. Hence A321 rumors and I guess more 739s if that doesn't work out? What was said in that LCP meeting Tsquare??

On a different subject, the ancient Romans decided a long long time ago for road construction to have a standard chariot width that was as wide as two horses side by side. When you make them standard then supposedly it's easier to ride your chariots wheels where the wheels before had traveled or something. Anyways, take that standard to that crazy isle in Britain and after Rome is gone that width will remain a standard... which was used as the gauge on the new train steam engine... which the Americans then adopted as railroads developed here... and the North kept as the standard even though the South had 3 gauges... and we kept that gauge going which brings up a question; if all of that is true, is the reason we sit 3 x 2 in the Dogs and looks like the C-Series because it matched the width of a train car which matched the width of two horses rear ends side by side 2,000 years or so ago?

http://new.mta.info/sites/default/fi...?itok=vABk96oK

Of course where Douglas and Bombardier go 3 x 2, our friends at Boeing go 3 x 3 and it still fits on a train!

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BTW the regional jets and turboprops were based on this width:

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