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Old 07-06-2013 | 02:52 PM
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RE. the crashed 777 in SFO, sounds like they were trasitioned to the inbord (28R) on final. WX looked good, but eye witness said they were low and slow (obviously) and was the GS up for the inboard?

I don't know if that one had the Rolls Royce engines, but several years ago there were issues with the fuel/oil heat exchanger, forming ice balls, which resulted in the BA 777 landing short. They pushed the power up and nothing happened, due to the ice in the fuel line. They were all supposed to be fixed several years ago.
Old 07-06-2013 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Then you've never read anything on the website. They attack ALPA for sure...and for very accurate reasons. But there are many new ways of doing business listed. What you've said is just not true.



This is the kind of stuff that makes me believe you never signed a card or ever went to the website. I don't recall anything from you other than 100% full throated ALPA support. That is of course your right, I just don't remember even the smallest thought of an independent union from you.



This is where you are so wrong finis and your position at the top of the heap is skewing your thinking. First, it's wrong to exclude UPS and FDX. Second, the fact that our pay for the 747 and 777 is approaching that of SWA crews is nothing to crow about. Every pilot makes that at SWA. Only a small percentage of Delta pilots make what you and I make. Further, a significant portion of our seniority list will NEVER make what we make because they'll never get there. You really need to rethink your statement above.



We know with 100% certainty finis. There wasn't even a hint of buying the Virgin stake or the remnants of Pinnacle. Only the corporate goal of debt reduction. The only reason they were able to make these purchases was because of the money we left on the table. If we had taken that money, they wouldn't have been able to make these outsource facilitating purchases and still meet the debt reduction milestones they promised Wall Street.



See above. By leaving extra money on the table, we allowed management to keep their debt reduction promises and make these new outsourcing purchases.

Again, we (DALPA) actually aided management in purchasing more opportunities for management to outsource our jobs. Why would we do that? Because ALPA's mandate is to gain members by spreading the wealth from the have's (Delta pilots) to the have not's (DCI & select JV partners). Welcome to ALPA's brave new world.

Carl
Carl, sorry, let me rephrase so you will understand. You nor anybody else not in senior management know if and when the company would have walked away from the table. This TA could or could not have been the best deal we were going to get. Whether this TA passed or not DL was going to make record profits this year and they would have made those investments regardless (educated guess on my part, I'm not in mgmt either but I did look at the financial statements real close).
You are correct about your website, I haven't visited it in quite awhile nor do I intend to.
Old 07-06-2013 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
Maybe the flight attendant was distracting them??
My. God. If that woman had been distracting me, no way we would have even made it to the runway.
Old 07-06-2013 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
RE. the crashed 777 in SFO, sounds like they were trasitioned to the inbord (28R) on final. WX looked good, but eye witness said they were low and slow (obviously) and was the GS up for the inboard?

I don't know if that one had the Rolls Royce engines, but several years ago there were issues with the fuel/oil heat exchanger, forming ice balls, which resulted in the BA 777 landing short. They pushed the power up and nothing happened, due to the ice in the fuel line. They were all supposed to be fixed several years ago.
FIXED NEWS!!!

Pathetic, "Bubble headed bleach blonde talks about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye""


Let's talk out of our A** some more!! Well, better find the BBC in ATL to get a reasonable account of the events...


Struck a nerve with those in the spin zone but, so tired of the BS!

Yes a cat rancher ate all the food on a 5:26 leg!!!! Ill feel better in a few after I eat and drink!!!
Old 07-06-2013 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
RE. the crashed 777 in SFO, sounds like they were trasitioned to the inbord (28R) on final. WX looked good, but eye witness said they were low and slow (obviously) and was the GS up for the inboard?

I don't know if that one had the Rolls Royce engines, but several years ago there were issues with the fuel/oil heat exchanger, forming ice balls, which resulted in the BA 777 landing short. They pushed the power up and nothing happened, due to the ice in the fuel line. They were all supposed to be fixed several years ago.
Loc and GP notam'ed out of service for both 28's.
Old 07-06-2013 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
RE. the crashed 777 in SFO, sounds like they were trasitioned to the inbord (28R) on final. WX looked good, but eye witness said they were low and slow (obviously) and was the GS up for the inboard?
Well,if 777 pilots can't figure out that the inboard is 28 LEFT, not 28R, there's your problem rights there.

LOC/GS was notamed OTS.
Old 07-06-2013 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by biigD
My. God. If that woman had been distracting me, no way we would have even made it to the runway.
Apparently the mains struck the rocky embankment at the beginning of the runway then the empennage. I really hope they didn't just come in low. The 777 sure seems like a stable plane on approach.
Old 07-06-2013 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
RE. the crashed 777 in SFO, sounds like they were trasitioned to the inbord (28R) on final. WX looked good, but eye witness said they were low and slow (obviously) and was the GS up for the inboard?

I don't know if that one had the Rolls Royce engines, but several years ago there were issues with the fuel/oil heat exchanger, forming ice balls, which resulted in the BA 777 landing short. They pushed the power up and nothing happened, due to the ice in the fuel line. They were all supposed to be fixed several years ago.
editing myself: Their entire fleet are 777-200ERs. They all have PW4090 engines.

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Old 07-06-2013 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Well,if 777 pilots can't figure out that the inboard is 28 LEFT, not 28R, there's your problem rights there.

LOC/GS was notamed OTS.

That was the 4 Torpedos talking and I was thinking about the set up in ATL.

I forgot SFO is....

can I say it?

Ass Backwards!

Not that there's anything wrong with that!
Old 07-06-2013 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Gloopy, I predict NONE of those will constitute a "good faith basis" once the dust finally settles on this issue.
Let's hope so too, but the language should have been better.
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