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They actually go by "Delta, errr Citrus XXXX".
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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1444652)
We've already got nearly 100 CPZ and 30 XJT flows on property. I haven't heard a single story of pilots actually at Delta acting bitter towards flows. There have been a couple of flows that returned to their previous airline, but they were given every opportunity to stay.
We do have some folks already here that have interesting attitudes towards .mil guys, but the flows won't ever have to pull gear for them as they will be of similar seniority: :confused: And of course guys like JungleBus who trashtalk their future coworkers before ever setting foot on the property don't help... I see you're still butthurt about JungleBus so efficiently shooting holes in your C2012 spin? He'll be on property soon. ;) |
Originally Posted by Will
(Post 1444700)
I personally know of two females that were hired at CPZ with no PIC time that flowed to Delta already. So saying all CPZ pilots hired were high time pilots is not correct.
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
(Post 1444717)
I know personally two people hired at DAL with 0 TPIC. It goes both ways. Just have to meet the minimums and know the right people.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1444731)
It's basically all recalls and compass. Compass has the first 20 spots in each class till they reach the limit, then they must back fill with 9E guys. I don't see them hiring anyone off the street.
From the Compass section on this website... Delta will offer employment to an eligible Compass pilot before any other pilot candidate for hire in seniority order. To be eligible, a Compass pilot must: (1) be a Captain; and (2) have at least 30 months on payroll. Unless waived by Delta & Compass, the max number of Compass pilots flowing up to Delta will be the lesser of: (1) 25% of total Compass pilots in any rolling 12-months, or (2) 20 per month. So according to this site, Compass has 439 pilots. 25% would be 110 pilots in 12 months. The lesser of the two would be roughly 9-10 a month versus 20. I can't imagine Compass would let everybody who is eligible go as soon as there is a class. Especially with the increase in ATP mins, who will replace them? "Unless waived by Delta & Compass" seems to be their loophole. Any chance Compass tells Delta, "we can't afford to let these guys go just quite yet."? Who ensures both parties are holding up to this agreement? If I'm misunderstanding this, please explain it. I'm not a lawyer and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. |
Originally Posted by Elcid93
(Post 1444764)
I'm trying to understand this system of flowthroughs and guaranteed interviews, but in the words of "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer", it "frightens and confuses me."
From the Compass section on this website... Delta will offer employment to an eligible Compass pilot before any other pilot candidate for hire in seniority order. To be eligible, a Compass pilot must: (1) be a Captain; and (2) have at least 30 months on payroll. Unless waived by Delta & Compass, the max number of Compass pilots flowing up to Delta will be the lesser of: (1) 25% of total Compass pilots in any rolling 12-months, or (2) 20 per month. So according to this site, Compass has 439 pilots. 25% would be 110 pilots in 12 months. The lesser of the two would be roughly 9-10 a month versus 20. I can't imagine Compass would let everybody who is eligible go as soon as there is a class. Especially with the increase in ATP mins, who will replace them? "Unless waived by Delta & Compass" seems to be their loophole. Any chance Compass tells Delta, "we can't afford to let these guys go just quite yet."? Who ensures both parties are holding up to this agreement? If I'm misunderstanding this, please explain it. I'm not a lawyer and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. |
Originally Posted by Elcid93
(Post 1444764)
I'm trying to understand this system of flowthroughs and guaranteed interviews, but in the words of "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer", it "frightens and confuses me."
From the Compass section on this website... Delta will offer employment to an eligible Compass pilot before any other pilot candidate for hire in seniority order. To be eligible, a Compass pilot must: (1) be a Captain; and (2) have at least 30 months on payroll. Unless waived by Delta & Compass, the max number of Compass pilots flowing up to Delta will be the lesser of: (1) 25% of total Compass pilots in any rolling 12-months, or (2) 20 per month. So according to this site, Compass has 439 pilots. 25% would be 110 pilots in 12 months. The lesser of the two would be roughly 9-10 a month versus 20. I can't imagine Compass would let everybody who is eligible go as soon as there is a class. Especially with the increase in ATP mins, who will replace them? "Unless waived by Delta & Compass" seems to be their loophole. Any chance Compass tells Delta, "we can't afford to let these guys go just quite yet."? Who ensures both parties are holding up to this agreement? If I'm misunderstanding this, please explain it. I'm not a lawyer and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. |
Is Compass over staffed by chance?
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1444769)
Is Compass over staffed by chance?
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Originally Posted by Elcid93
(Post 1444764)
I'm trying to understand this system of flowthroughs and guaranteed interviews, but in the words of "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer", it "frightens and confuses me."
From the Compass section on this website... Delta will offer employment to an eligible Compass pilot before any other pilot candidate for hire in seniority order. To be eligible, a Compass pilot must: (1) be a Captain; and (2) have at least 30 months on payroll. Unless waived by Delta & Compass, the max number of Compass pilots flowing up to Delta will be the lesser of: (1) 25% of total Compass pilots in any rolling 12-months, or (2) 20 per month. So according to this site, Compass has 439 pilots. 25% would be 110 pilots in 12 months. The lesser of the two would be roughly 9-10 a month versus 20. I can't imagine Compass would let everybody who is eligible go as soon as there is a class. Especially with the increase in ATP mins, who will replace them? "Unless waived by Delta & Compass" seems to be their loophole. Any chance Compass tells Delta, "we can't afford to let these guys go just quite yet."? Who ensures both parties are holding up to this agreement? If I'm misunderstanding this, please explain it. I'm not a lawyer and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Which is what I heard Delta prefers anyway. I have heard they are not very fond of the flow agreements anyway-- not flaming, just saying what was out there is all. |
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