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firstmob 07-22-2013 07:59 AM

IMHO. If we don't put in our WB order soon, we will be so far back in the queue it may be 2-3 years before delivery unless we are buying used.

flyallnite 07-22-2013 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1449244)
Wait till you retire. It is next to impossible to non rev on a S3B. It is painful to see a 2013 hire get on before me. Not whining, I know the rules. It would be nice to get a few (4) trips a year using an S2 or 3 for vacation trips. Something to think about in the next contract. This would be a no cost item to the company. Just saying!

...Errr, no.

capncrunch 07-22-2013 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1449236)
Why wouldn't he be knocking one out in the meantime just so it was a non-deal?

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Compass flows go direct to class? If they go direct to class why go and get a degree now? he slipped through.

I haven't spoken with the guy since my last airline so I don't know if he changed his situation.

flyallnite 07-22-2013 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 1449352)
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Compass flows go direct to class? If they go direct to class why go and get a degree now? he slipped through.

I haven't spoken with the guy since my last airline so I don't know if he changed his situation.


I think Delta offers tuition assistance. Might as well wait until they are here!

DeadHead 07-22-2013 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1449244)
Wait till you retire. It is next to impossible to non rev on a S3B. It is painful to see a 2013 hire get on before me. Not whining, I know the rules. It would be nice to get a few (4) trips a year using an S2 or 3 for vacation trips. Something to think about in the next contract. This would be a no cost item to the company. Just saying!

I'd offer to negotiate that in the next contract if the pre-bankruptcy retirees offer to re-fund a percentage of the pension program for active pilots from their current monthly benefits.

maddogmax 07-22-2013 08:51 AM

Wow, you guy's need to switch from your whitey tightey's to boxer shorts!

Ed Harley 07-22-2013 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1449372)
Wow, you guy's need to switch from your whitey tightey's to boxer shorts!

Max,

If you don't understand why most on here would be upset about retiree pilots getting vacation passes that would put them ahead of current line pilots, then you're not looking at things in the context of the last 13 years from the perspective of a junior pilot.

maddogmax 07-22-2013 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Ed Harley (Post 1449379)
Max,

If you don't understand why most on here would be upset about retiree pilots getting vacation passes that would put them ahead of current line pilots, then you're not looking at things in the context of the last 13 years from the perspective of a junior pilot.

I understand completely. My point is that people need to look to the future. You all will be there one day. It comes quicker than you think. I am fortunate enough to have had a great career with a loving wife who makes more money than Carl. I can afford to buy any ticket we need. DONE!

Flying Monkey 07-22-2013 09:35 AM

I'm trying to find it in the contract, but hotel wifi is working against me. Can anyone give me the skinny on 'one for two'? I just want to see what I need to look for, the rotation doesn't seem to show what I thought it would.

Check Essential 07-22-2013 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Flying Monkey (Post 1449394)
I'm trying to find it in the contract, but hotel wifi is working against me. Can anyone give me the skinny on 'one for two'? I just want to see what I need to look for, the rotation doesn't seem to show what I thought it would.

Its Section 12.K.1

K.
Duty Period Credit (“1 for 2”)

1. A pilot who reports for duty will be guaranteed a minimum duty period credit. Such credit will be calculated on the greater of scheduled or actual duty time, prorated on a minute-by-minute basis, for each duty period, as follows:
a. one hour credit for every two hours of duty time from 0600 to 2200 (pilot’s base time), and
b. one hour credit for every one and three quarters hours of duty time,
1) from 2200 to 0600 (pilot’s base time), or
2) from 2200 to release from a duty period that includes 0359 (pilot’s base time).

It may not show up on your time card until the rotation is completed (12.M.2)


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