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Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1451198)

Carl,

I agree.

How about the next time crew scheduling calls a pilot with an inverse assignment:

"This is Delta Crew scheduling - we have an inverse assignment trip for you."

"Well I know what my "contractual obligation" is, but I think I have already flown more than my "fair-share" of line flights for the month so call someone else."

How do you think that will turn out?

Scoop

You simply don't answer your phone and you won't get an IA trip. ;)

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Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1451179)

I read somewhere that we are so far behind in block hours that it is impossible to be in compliance by the measurement period. The small charts, and absence of block hour shortage numbers probably made it hard for you to see that.

That's impossible.

Delta would never do that to us. With all their crowing about "integrity" and "professionalism," surely they will practice what they preach.

Stand by for "Verification requests." If the company doesn't follow the PWA, I think many of us will be very, very sick. Probably need every single minute of our sick time every single year.

Oh, and adios, ALPA. Good riddance.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1451174)

They are apparently trying to help the DPA get the final few cards they need to call a vote. :eek:

It would cause me to send in a card. No doubt.

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Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1450987)

Wow!

From the update:

"At that point, Delta expected to grow compared to JV partners Air France, KLM and Alitalia. Due to many factors, this growth beyond our “fair share” has not occurred."

So if we were to meet the "contractually agreed to" numbers then we would be flying more than our "fair share" of the flying. No wonder DALPA does not seem too concerned about this.

This brings up numerous questions:

If the contractual number is not fair - why did we and/or our partners, and the company agree to them?

If the contractual numbers do not represent our fair share of the flying then what is our fair share?

Why don't they just say the company is not meeting its obligations and we expect them to correct it?

OBTW - Who had the great idea of a 3 year measurement window anyway?

Scoop :confused:

Sadly, it won't matter...

The "best and brightest lawyers at DALPA" put no teeth into the contract.

When Delta is found to be "not in compliance" (which means Delta pilots are NOT flying Delta passengers....which means Delta pilot WB jobs) the only thing the company needs to do is "take steps to improve the ratio".

"Take steps to improve the ratio"....that's the best that our top-notch team of lawyers and negotiators at DALPA could come up with.

Hey DALPA....how about putting something in the contract that says "If the company fails to meet contract ratios of flying, Delta Air Lines will pay each pilot XXX.XX dollars per day until the ratio is restored".

Most don't see it, but this affects what we fly, and where bodies are needed....and pay increases when bodies are needed on WB jets versus NB jets.

When the ratio results are finally known, and the company is not in compliance.....DALPA will sign some sort of LOA allowing it....

Pathetic...

Rant over...thanks for listening.

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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright (Post 1451200)

I hate to say you might be wrong twice on the same page DH, but that was the annual meeting of stockholders in June, not the quarterly Board of Directors meeting.

It's the BOD who approves aircraft purchases, not the stockholders.

When is the next quarterly BOD meeting?

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Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1450987)

The boast was that by the end of the compliance window Delta would add 6-7 daily 7ER roundtrips to meet the percentage

Not only will Delta miss the target of 50%, They will miss the lower limit we gave them, the "just in case" wiggle room and they will miss that on a rolling 3-year average. So basically anything under 50% means non-Delta pilots are providing that share of the Trans Atlantic capacity...
Not only is that not fair, it doesn't meet the requirements of the PWA.

But here's the kicker:
In todays earnings call Management boasted that even thought Atlantic capacity will be up by a percentage point or so, the schedule will be flown by 16 fewer jets because of up gauging.

So in summary:

Euro flying dramatically cut because of crisis
Delta flying a smaller percentage of the already reduced JV flying than spelled out in PWA
Even though Delta is adding capacity they still will miss the lower limit and are boasting about doing so with 16 fewer jets.

All these factors mean fewer 7ER pilots and fewer augmented 7ER crews...It matters, because there are more 7ER pilots than in any other category.

Maybe next time the company and DALPA decide that our pay has reached "our fair share" and that any upcoming increases will be withheld...it wouldn't be any different really.

Cheers
George

Do we have to have a PIC type rating by August 1 for the new FARs or did they extend the deadline?

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1451171)

I'm going to the PUB event in Seattle in about an hour and will ask these questions....

Denny

Please let us know how that went. I was going to go, but after a day at the Guard I forgot it was tonight! :eek:

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Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1451249)

Euro flying dramatically cut because of crisis
Delta flying a smaller percentage of the already reduced JV flying than spelled out in PWA
Even though Delta is adding capacity they still will miss the lower limit and are boasting about doing so with 16 fewer jets.

Best contract ever.

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1450804)

Where are we going to get the gates?
I thought that was the limiting factor in Seattle.

At that time of evening, gates aren't an issue. But you're right, going forward it is a real problem. Now that United is over on A, I've only seen us parking on B.

The most pressing problem is Customs. Port of SEA is really a poor dynamic visionary. They should have new facilities in place now - not talking about new Immigration space in 5 years.