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You were a victim of our Airborne Reserve System (ARS). Since it costs the same, and is quicker than shortcall, it is the best solution. Our reroute section of the contract is on the failboat. Any idea what SWA guys get for reroute compensation? I do.

It also, in effect, takes seniority out of the bidding process.

hockeypilot44

08-01-2013 04:58 PM

Our "everybody manning" compensation system with no premium pay or penalty to the company is a contract section we need to work on. It's one of those things that I never really thought of until this last month because we have always been overstaffed since I have been here. New bid strategy in summer will be to award latest shows with earliest finishes and least TAFB to minimize the reroutes.

johnso29

08-01-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1455716)

Unfortunately as long as OPs is not cancelling flights due to lack of pilots, the company will continue to figure they are correctly manned. GS are still cheaper then another pilot on the list.

Which is why we're hiring?:confused:

Doug Masters

08-01-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1455756)

It also, in effect, takes seniority out of the bidding process.

This was part of the reason I was a no voter. Makes it hard to plan around kids events, etc when you're effectively on reserve during your trip with no regard for seniority.

capncrunch

08-01-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1455754)

Oh yeah first month in quite a few where I didn't get a new seniority number.

It's nice to watch my number move up but I can't hold what I was holding 3 years ago. Whoopity doo.

GunshipGuy

08-01-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1455763)

Based on how negotiations went regarding the reserve portion of our contract I'd prefer our negotiators stay away from discussing any changes to the PWA regarding reroutes. They'll only make it worse. But we'll be told how great the changes are and it didn't cost us that much in negotiating capital.

Flamer

08-01-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1455799)

With this much faith in the current union, it's no wonder why people are bailing like rats of the titanic.

johnso29

08-01-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1455804)

With this much faith in the current union, it's no wonder why people are bailing like rats of the titanic.

3 plus years of campaigning, barely any money, and still haven't approached the NMB? I don't think that qualifies as bailing like rats off the titanic.

Purple Drank

08-01-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1455581)

I called scheduling and they said that the trip will go to the 3 day bucket person regardless of seniority or yellow slip because I'm in the 6 day bucket.

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As far as I can tell from reading the PWA, yellow slips are supposed to trump availability buckets.

Perhaps I'm missing something?

80ktsClamp

08-01-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1455816)

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As far as I can tell from reading the PWA, yellow slips are supposed to trump availability buckets.

Perhaps I'm missing something?

You are.

Buckets trump yellow slips. It's really only worth it to yellow if the trip you want is in your bucket or if they are out of pilots in the bucket that pertains to your trip.

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