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Flamer 08-07-2013 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1458803)
Flamer's certainly into lobbing grenades most of the time, but I have to wonder what the purpose of the memo is. More specifically, why this type of memo isn't being put out by Flight Ops. If they want to explain why they don't want to do certain things, let them. If we want to politely say we deserve better, then let's do that. I don't see the advantage in us carrying their water in establishing a rationale for their actions.

To the extent it's part of the overall communications effort, it fails.

How about: "...We've asked for more efficient rotations. To their credit [no pun intended], the company did agree to model it. In some cases, there is a cost associated with these higher quality trips, and the company chooses not to incur that cost. We will continue to encourage them to do better, and we recommend that they provide the group with a rationale for their choice..."?

EOS.

Exactly. Same memo from the company....no comment and I understand it's just business. Getting ALPA to do your dirty work....F

And yes, I do enjoy grenade lobbing. I provide myself more humor than others.

LeineLodge 08-07-2013 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1458797)
Okay you scheduling Conquistadors, 1 week of vacation and 1 week of training, 18 other days.

Bid a line or bid reserve?

What's guarantee? I almost always opt for reserve. For example, I had a week of vacation in July and started the month with around 84 hours of pay. To beat that as a lineholder, you'd have to fly at least 62ish hours. With a guarantee of 80, you'd be full around 58 hours. There's the possibility that you wouldn't even work that much.

Also, keep in mind that after labor day you are less likely to fly on every single RSV day, which further tilts the needle towards RSV. That's just me though. Happy bidding. I need to get mine in soon too. Almost ftb'd last month.

Scoop 08-07-2013 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1458830)
What's guarantee? I almost always opt for reserve. For example, I had a week of vacation in July and started the month with around 84 hours of pay. To beat that as a lineholder, you'd have to fly at least 62ish hours. With a guarantee of 80, you'd be full around 58 hours. There's the possibility that you wouldn't even work that much.

Also, keep in mind that after labor day you are less likely to fly on every single RSV day, which further tilts the needle towards RSV. That's just me though. Happy bidding. I need to get mine in soon too. Almost ftb'd last month.


Ditto,

I usually start out intending to fly a line, but then give up after looking at the bid package. Even being pretty senior in category I end up bidding reserve 6-8 months of the year.

Scoop

Pineapple Guy 08-08-2013 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1458796)
You got it backwards gerbroni. Pilot says world is round. 4th floor says, no way, it's flat. Sends ALPA to sell a "flat world 2012" to the masses. 63% of the pilots believe it is in fact flat.

So now you're accusing your fellow Delta pilots who are on the RCC of lying. OK - I get it.

Pineapple Guy 08-08-2013 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1458803)
Flamer's certainly into lobbing grenades most of the time, but I have to wonder what the purpose of the memo is. More specifically, why this type of memo isn't being put out by Flight Ops. If they want to explain why they don't want to do certain things, let them. If we want to politely say we deserve better, then let's do that. I don't see the advantage in us carrying their water in establishing a rationale for their actions.

To the extent it's part of the overall communications effort, it fails.

How about: "...We've asked for more efficient rotations. To their credit [no pun intended], the company did agree to model it. In some cases, there is a cost associated with these higher quality trips, and the company chooses not to incur that cost. We will continue to encourage them to do better, and we recommend that they provide the group with a rationale for their choice..."?

EOS.

Really?

The pilots clamor for more efficient rotations. We direct the MEC to study the issue. They do just that, and come up with hard data. But now you DON'T want them to publish that? Instead, you want them to provide some wishy washy answer. I thought you wanted ALPA to be more transparent and open in their communications. Or is that only when the data supports your own preconceived notions...

I'm surprised at you, Sink r8; you're generally more level headed than that.

hammer189 08-08-2013 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1458797)
Okay you scheduling Conquistadors, 1 week of vacation and 1 week of training, 18 other days.

Bid a line or bid reserve?

Call the PBS call center and they can give you the exact pay and days off on reserve to make that decision.

FedElta 08-08-2013 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Jinks (Post 1458792)
Happened early in 1986. We were also in the process of converting to the F-16 at Moody. Collapsed the nose gear and took a hard left.

At Selfridge ANGB in the early 90's, our two-seater hit a doe and fawn on landing rollout. No damage, but both deer didn't make it. A few weeks later, professional bow hunters were allowed on base to cull the herd. Maintenance techs had deer sihlouettes painted on the intake.

Hey Jinks,

Did you fly with "Flash" down in Jax ???

Purple Drank 08-08-2013 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1458894)
So now you're accusing your fellow Delta pilots who are on the MEC of lying

Fixed it for you.

And yes, I am.

The only thing more embarrassing than a "union" that pukes out the hackish, transparent drivel that you and ALPA do is the fact that the majority our pilot group swallows it whole.

Pineapple Guy 08-08-2013 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1458909)
Fixed it for you.

And yes, I am.

The only thing more embarrassing than a "union" that pukes out the hackish, transparent drivel that you and ALPA do is the fact that the majority our pilot group swallows it whole.

Purple, I know reading is not your strong point, but perhaps you can get your Mom to read it to you....slowly. The RCC document being complained about was signed by 10 Delta pilots, none of whom are on the MEC.

XtremeF150 08-08-2013 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1458794)
I hit a deer with my truck on the way to work one day at 55mph without hitting the brakes. I did it on the county line and I knocked the deer over into another county. But nobody knew which one of three counties the land belonged too.

Three days later I get a call from someone very excited to get the deer... I guess there's a list. I know Massachusetts out of all places has such a list.

Anyways, $55 in damage to my F-150. Had I had my wifes Honda Accord that we had at the time, I'd be dead. I got rid of that thing soon after. The deer was big and I t-boned it.

Had one like that. I had about a 48 hour layover in South Dakota around the same time Sturgis was in full swing and decided a rental car was in order. The wife flew up and we drove over to see the festivities. Didn't think that finding a hotel would take an act of God but it ended up unless I was camping there was no where to stay. So we enjoyed the day and headed back to my crew hotel a couple hours away at midnight. About 1am a VERY large deer and I met on a lonely stretch of interstate in SD. The deer didn't make it but neither did my Chevy HHR rental. It was definitely totaled. The wife and I were ok and a state trooper came along about 15 minutes later and drove me to the next exit where we stayed the night. Since the "town" I was in had nothing more than 2x a week bus service, the wife and I ended up catching a ride with some bikers leaving the rally. Had their bikes on trailers of course cause I couldn't see me or the wife hugged up on the back of some random bikers. :eek:

Had some good stories for the FO when I made it back. :D


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