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shiznit 09-21-2013 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1487856)
Can someone give me a quick explanation on why block hours is the new chosen metric of DALPA? Why is it the superior metric? Thanks.

For whatever reason, I haven't been paying attention.

Because block hours more closely relate to pilot staffing than other metrics.

profit 09-21-2013 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1487795)
Airport standby removal list should have them in correct order.

Not sure how they slot on "their" equipment (that we bought and pay for).

For some reason travelnet shows in pure date of hire order. But the gate must see it differently since they end up taking mainline people first before any OALs.

TOGA LK 09-21-2013 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL (Post 1487831)
It's not about routes, but block hours. I don't care if we don't fly the beach markets as long as the pilot block hours remain constant and we fly them on more profitable routes. Lose block hours and we lose pilot jobs. Increase block hours and we grow pilot jobs.

So does anyone have details of this TA? Why announce we have it but you can't see it in order to provide input to our Reps?

Why do I perceive two different outcomes:

A: the company gives ALPA a perceived win to fend off DPA.
B: we botch this up and another five to six years of stagnation.

I guess I've been burned enough by TAs and LOAs to ever assume an agreement would equal the status quo or God forbid growth at expense of some upstart.

Carl Spackler 09-21-2013 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1487790)
Tell ya what.. Let's do a "cost neutral" contract next time too. The DTW 744 captains will swap pay checks with 215 DTW gate agents!

It'll be "cost neutral" for the company in the eyes of the investment community.. Not convinced the gate agents will think it's "cost neutral"....

The "cost" was taken out of DCI engine maintenance and block hour payments to OTHER AIRLINES and put into the Delta pilot PWA.

Neutral to the enterprise? Well, yes....

Neutral to the pilots? Well, there's more than a Billion reasons that isn't true.

The "cost" was taken out of our own contract by lower profit sharing and numerous give backs in productivity allowing for fewer pilots.

Carl

Carl Spackler 09-21-2013 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1487877)
We should not have to "hope" and "pray" that Scrappy got it right.

The MEC should do the right thing and pass this along for membership ratification.

There is no reason not to do so. Section 1 is the beating heart of our contract. Its clear that the rank and file pilots have had an intense focus on scope in recent years. Modifications to Section1 are of critical importance to all of us. This LOA is going to have a substantial and long-lasting impact on the wages and working conditions of all Delta pilots. (the old language from the MEC policy manual which controlled when a contract change would be subject to MEMRAT).

There is no time critical situation here. This is not even a "fleeting opportunity". We have plenty of time to debate this agreement and then vote.

The MEC has been flooding us with communications lately about how "democratic" ALPA is and how grass roots participation is so vital and how "We Are ALPA". etc. etc.
Well, its time for them to prove it. Let the members have a say on this LOA.

Attention Delta MEC -- DO NOT treat us like mushrooms. This is too important.

You can start by publicly announcing that this MEC meeting is going to be open to the membership.

Couldn't agree more. What say you acl65pilot...NuGuy?

Carl

NWA320pilot 09-21-2013 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1487899)
The "cost" was taken out of our own contract by lower profit sharing and numerous give backs in productivity allowing for fewer pilots.

Carl


Well said Carl! Even RA stated our raises came from this at the NRT base visit, but he also said not to worry because Delta is making so much money our profit sharing checks should be about equal to last years........:(

Carl Spackler 09-21-2013 08:06 AM

Not that I think we have a chance that DALPA will allow MEMRAT for this LOA they're about to ratify, but if they did - this is what I hope we members would focus on. This is our current relevant Scope language:

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2. Without the consent of the Delta MEC, neither the Company nor any Company affiliate will enter into or maintain an agreement or arrangement with any foreign air carrier performing international partner flying that permits the Company or any Company affiliate to book or ticket under the Company’s or Company affiliate’s designator code, reserve, block, and/or purchase for resale:

a. more than 40% of the passenger seats in any month on any pair of flight segments in a city pair (e.g., CDG-ATL-CDG) of such foreign air carrier,

b. a monthly average of more than 175 passenger seats per flight segment (e.g., CDG- ATL or ATL-CDG) of such foreign air carrier to and from destinations other than Mexico, the Caribbean, Canada or Central America, or

c. a monthly average of more than 75 passenger seats per flight segment of such foreign air carrier to and from Mexico, the Caribbean, Canada or Central America, and

d. passenger seats on any Fifth Freedom flight segment between Japan and Asian cities beyond Japan, unless 316 weekly NRT slots are scheduled to be utilized in Company flying.

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What I've bolded above is what will be removed or rendered toothless in this new LOA.

How many times have we all talked about real penalties for the company or even snap-backs when our PWA is violated? This is an example of language that does just that. This language is there to allow Delta to outsource our jobs by allowing Delta passengers to be flown on non-Delta metal by non-Delta pilots...but ONLY IF Delta utilizes 316 NRT slots every week. If Delta doesn't utilize 316 NRT slots per week, they can no longer maintain the code share. In other words, the code share must immediately end.

Is there any wonder why management has asked for these "negotiations?" This is the kind of punishing language that management just hates. And DALPA is about to remove its teeth without MEMRAT.

Carl

forgot to bid 09-21-2013 08:17 AM

Off subject but for you military history fans...

US nearly detonated atomic bomb over North Carolina ? secret document | World news | The Guardian
The document, obtained by the investigative journalist Eric Schlosser under the Freedom of Information Act, gives the first conclusive evidence that the US was narrowly spared a disaster of monumental proportions when two Mark 39 hydrogen bombs were accidentally dropped over Goldsboro, North Carolina on 23 January 1961. The bombs fell to earth after a B-52 bomber broke up in mid-air, and one of the devices behaved precisely as a nuclear weapon was designed to behave in warfare: its parachute opened, its trigger mechanisms engaged, and only one low-voltage switch prevented untold carnage.

flyallnite 09-21-2013 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1487946)
Off subject but for you military history fans...

US nearly detonated atomic bomb over North Carolina ? secret document | World news | The Guardian
The document, obtained by the investigative journalist Eric Schlosser under the Freedom of Information Act, gives the first conclusive evidence that the US was narrowly spared a disaster of monumental proportions when two Mark 39 hydrogen bombs were accidentally dropped over Goldsboro, North Carolina on 23 January 1961. The bombs fell to earth after a B-52 bomber broke up in mid-air, and one of the devices behaved precisely as a nuclear weapon was designed to behave in warfare: its parachute opened, its trigger mechanisms engaged, and only one low-voltage switch prevented untold carnage.

That's some scary stuff. 4 megatons... just days after JFK was sworn in. Probably would have tipped off WW3. Unimaginable.

Ftrooppilot 09-21-2013 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1487952)
That's some scary stuff. 4 megatons... just days after JFK was sworn in. Probably would have tipped off WW3. Unimaginable.

On Jan. 16, 1966, a B-52G—call sign Tea 16—departed Seymour Johnson AFB, N.C. The crew completed two refuelings and an orbit near Turkey. Refueling No. 3, on Jan. 17, was their last act.
For some reason, the bomber was a little too fast. The KC-135’s boom struck the B-52’s longeron, and the left wing of the bomber snapped off.
Four nuclear weapons were released. Three of the bombs fell with the B-52 wreckage near the village of Palomares on Spain’s Mediterranean coast. The first was located near the beach. Another dug deep into a tomato field, while the third landed near a cemetery. The dirt dampened the plutonium, which escaped from the damaged bombs. USAF teams raced to dig the bombs out and haul away tons of radioactive dirt.


The fourth bomb, however, was missing. The US Navy sent more than 30 ships and the submersible vessel Alvin to scour the sea floor. Finally, 11 weeks after the accident, USS Petrel lifted the fourth Mk 28 aboard just before 8 a.m. on April 7. :o

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