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Going from reserve in December to a line in January. If a reserve assignment at the end of Dec. makes a trip scheduled in January illegal to operate, what's the pay consequences?
The specifics are I have 3 reserve days at the end of dec and 6 days of work starting on the 1st, which violates the 30 in 168 rest rule. I'm hoping they drop a reserve day to comply, but if they fly me and drop part of a January trip am I pay protected in any way? |
Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
(Post 1541441)
Going from reserve in December to a line in January. If a reserve assignment at the end of Dec. makes a trip scheduled in January illegal to operate, what's the pay consequences?
The specifics are I have 3 reserve days at the end of dec and 6 days of work starting on the 1st, which violates the 30 in 168 rest rule. I'm hoping they drop a reserve day to comply, but if they fly me and drop part of a January trip am I pay protected in any way? I know when you pick up, thus forcing a drop for legality in the following month you lose pay ... but, you did not pick up anything. |
Originally Posted by chuck416
(Post 1541128)
My best guess is, that for line holders, it's going to mean working two extra days per month on the domestic narrowbody side. YMMV, but I don't think I'm too far off on that. Could be that the Int'l F/O bid award are going to get even more senior later this year. Hope I'm wrong.
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
(Post 1541386)
I did it several times in my Delta career.
Last time was in Jan 2011, but, according to my public math, 687 pilots left Delta without replacement since then, so I don't think dropping the whole line would ever be possible. We are so much leaner now that reverses will be capped. All because most of us would rather work a lot more (for a little more in pay) than vote no. That is exactly what management wanted. Rant over, sorry! Remember, the company only cares about the number of pilots available to fly the schedule every month... Not the total number of pilots on the seniority list. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1541446)
Does it? I've got plenty of 30 hour rest periods in a hotel. Have you looked at the rotations? I did not think PBS would build you an "illegal" schedule.
I know when you pick up, thus forcing a drop for legality in the following month you lose pay ... but, you did not pick up anything. |
Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
(Post 1541457)
Yeah, no 30 hour rest periods. Hoping that when the schedule loads into DBMS the last reserve day gets marked as a rest day.
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Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1541372)
Yes. But, I don't think there is nothing we can do this month to affect it. Ie., fly all you want, that money is going on your January 15th check, and won't be a part of the profit sharing calculation.
At least I think that's what I was just told. :D |
Originally Posted by Beer Man
(Post 1541542)
Ah, I see what you mean. Good point
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
(Post 1541441)
Going from reserve in December to a line in January. If a reserve assignment at the end of Dec. makes a trip scheduled in January illegal to operate, what's the pay consequences?
The specifics are I have 3 reserve days at the end of dec and 6 days of work starting on the 1st, which violates the 30 in 168 rest rule. I'm hoping they drop a reserve day to comply, but if they fly me and drop part of a January trip am I pay protected in any way? In the above situation the 30 hour rule may not apply. I don't have my laptop with me but DALPA put out that some rules will not look back into DEC such as 100 in 28 days. I would find that briefing and research it to prevent surprises. |
Looks like the MEC has responded to SD's letter regarding 117 and reserve.
The era of "proactive engagement," may be drawing to a close. |
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