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The company stated they were buffering by 30 minutes. I took a quick look at some SLC trips and could not find any over 8:30. Actually only saw one over 8. What category and rotations are you looking at that have a lot of days over 8:30?

Edit, Looked a little more and found some over 8:30 including one at 8:42. Interesting the company is ignoring their own self imposed buffer. Going to be a tough month if there are a bunch of these in other bases.

80ktsClamp

12-10-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1537242)

Told you so. ;) ATL 320 and 73N have a significant number of approaching 8:40 days as well.

You were wrong about the ATL-LAS-ATL not being a day trip, too! (ATL73N)

qball

12-10-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1537234)

Random look at MSP 320 has 8:39, 8:40 and an LAX-CVG turn blocked at 8:49. Not much room for delays.

80ktsClamp

12-10-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by qball (Post 1537249)

Random look at MSP 320 has 8:39, 8:40 and an LAX-CVG turn blocked at 8:49. Not much room for delays.

Even a cursory glance at the deice truck will stop that plane and crew in CVG...

Ready, FIRE, aim! is what this is looking to be...

contrails

12-10-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1537256)

Even a cursory glance at the deice truck will stop that plane and crew in CVG...

Ready, FIRE, aim! is what this is looking to be...

Or even the jetstream aimed just right! :eek:

LeineLodge

12-10-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1537225)

So if I'm a LC guy and they put a trip on my schedule I'm not going to ack the trip until 3 hours prior. They will then tell me I'm not legal for it and go see the chief because you didn't ack it. Then can't they give me the exact same trip as a GS with less than 12 hours to report? Once they run out of short call guys all the LC guys could take the trip as a GS with less than 12 to report and get GS pay for at least day one of the trip right?

I don't think so. The way I understand it (note the extreme caveat :D ) is you wouldn't have had your 10 hours Rest, with 8 hour uninterrupted sleep opportunity, prior to taking the trip. Unless I'm missing something, and it's going to change under 117, you are not on Rest when you are on long call. This is the whole reason they are trying to force a 10+ hour prior-to-report acknowledgement in the first place.

I think the <12 hour LC GS's are going to be just as illegal as a <10 hour IA, unless they can grab you between 12 and 10 hours prior, for a report that is <12 hours in the future - that's a pretty tight window.

buzzpat

12-10-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1537242)

Lots in LA on the 73 that exceed 8:30 next month. Lots. Gonna be some overtime and reroutes with the wx on the east coast.:D

tim123

12-11-2013 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1536980)

From Chicago, I believe. Smart fellow, good guy too. Been involved with ALPA for a long time.:( Probably a stepping stone for National office.:( Definitely experienced enough to do the job, but I just don't know his politics.

2 red flags for me.

flyallnite

12-11-2013 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tim123 (Post 1537401)

2 red flags for me.

Fair enough, but the frownie faces are yours, not mine as the quote shows. I think we'll soon find out the story. 117 is looking to be a problem, and the companys aggressive exploitation will likely lead to some mayhem... I wonder if the plan is to induce operational problems then go to the courts for relief?

Vikz09

12-11-2013 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1537288)

Lots in LA on the 73 that exceed 8:30 next month. Lots. Gonna be some overtime and reroutes with the wx on the east coast.:D

Looks like we can look forward to acars messages that read: hub adjustment speed increase, too, hair on fire speed so you don't time out. Please acknowledge IMMEDIATELY your received and update your arrival time.

This is going to be a cluster if they push flights above 830. I wonder if we will be receiving calls from the CPO to discuss why you went 20 minutes over block and forced us to cancel or delay the return flight?

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