Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1550294)

Me calling you out on making things up is why you left last time. Let's not start that again shall we? SWA pilots on average make FAR more than Delta pilots. FAR more. I know you know this, but you seem to take it as your job to spin heavily for management/DALPA. Why do you do this?

Carl, I have lots of friends at SWA. I made way more then any SWA captain I know last year. Here are the numbers from 2012, keep in mind we had at least a 10 percent improvement in 2013 and SWA had nothing.
Average pay per pilot Delta 158,227.00 SWA 157,279.00. In addition the average Delta pilot received 7600.00 more in DC contributions. For 2013 the Delta wages are up 10 percent.

Block hour costs: Delta 941 dollars per hour. SWA 698.00 dollars an hour.
To be honest that number is not a fair comparison. We should use the narrow body numbers for Delta to eliminate crewing differences. That number is 911.00 an hour. Again it will go up for 2013.



Average SWA captains make what I make or more. That's a fact. And ALL of their captains make that...not just the few 744/777 captains we have here at Delta.

Carl, The average SWA in good years according to SWAPA made about 234,000 a year. Last year if you know any SWA pilots you might find that their overtime is way down with the merger and wages down from that number. Much like we had a big drop the year after our merger. If you made less then that then you personally choose to drop trips and work a very light schedule. Most 747 Captains at Delta will be over 300k. More then a few will be over 400k.



No we won't. But you'll certainly spin it that way by comparing me to SWA captains and say that proves ALL Delta pilots make more than SWA pilots. This is bordering on a flat out lie sailingfud...just like your last lie about what management was demanding during C2012 negotiations.

Here is my source for the above Data. Please provide your source.
Airline Data Project

I also remember stating that the number of DPA members did not match the number of cards on file. You came up and stated that it matched exactly and every time a card expired they were removed from the total. Care to comment on that? Your story is quite different from a DPA advocate I just talked with.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1550325)

Which reserve changes sailingfud? The reserve changes from C2012 where we've gone to ALV+15 and a 7th short call...or the reserve changes about to take place by you and DALPA failing to defend against management's change to our contract by memo?

Carl

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1550326)

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1550341)

Not a single fact in your post and my income is 98 percent Delta. We define hobby very differently.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1550341)

Not a single fact in your post and my income is 98 percent Delta. We define hobby very differently.

Originally Posted by OB Pilot (Post 1550365)

Instead of comparing a senior 747/777 Delta captains pay to a SWA captains pay, I would like to hear from a real life Delta 737 captain and see where his actual pay stacks up. The average SWA captain pay is approx $230k gross not including retirement contribution. How does that compare to a Delta 737 captain?

Originally Posted by OB Pilot (Post 1550365)

Instead of comparing a senior 747/777 Delta captains pay to a SWA captains pay, I would like to hear from a real life Delta 737 captain and see where his actual pay stacks up. The average SWA captain pay is approx $230k gross not including retirement contribution. How does that compare to a Delta 737 captain?

Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1550375)

Not sure but I just flew a trip with a 320 guy who will make 235K this year and they make less than 737 guys. That is probably higher than the average though.