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RockyBoy 01-11-2014 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1556574)
It is in addition to your trip credit. Kinda like double for the part of the trip that was affected. Make sure it sticks though, nothing is guaranteed until it says closed on your time card.

There are a TON of reasons they can deny RR pay. I've had them take it away for a mechanical and WX. If it is out of the companies control then they will deny it. It will show until they close the rotation. When there is RR pay it actually goes to a supervisor who reviews it before they close it and that is when it will disappear.

Purple Drank 01-11-2014 12:03 PM

I know that mx and wx are not reasons for RR pay. However, if the company jams you into a reroute into a day off without exhausting other options, would that be considered "out of the company's control?"

Just wondering if we are able to hold the company accountable for taking the path of least resistance when other options were available.

Sink r8 01-11-2014 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 1555910)
As I understand it, short notice slips of any color do not require the 10 hours notice since you are volunteering for the flying and therefore are taking personal responsibility for being rested. Short notice IA's are legal but only as a proffer - they cannot require you to accept it. Another way to look at it is ANY assignment (except for SC) with less than 10 hours notice is a proffer only.
BTW - all of this applies to the 10 hour notice requirement only. ALL other 117 limitations still apply.

and


Originally Posted by Mem9guy (Post 1556011)
GS for reserve on a day off has not changed. You are still able to accept a trip on short notice and "self certify" that you are in compliance with Part 117 rest rules.

Thanks for the answers.

RockyBoy 01-11-2014 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1556760)
I know that mx and wx are not reasons for RR pay. However, if the company jams you into a reroute into a day off without exhausting other options, would that be considered "out of the company's control?"

Just wondering if we are able to hold the company accountable for taking the path of least resistance when other options were available.

If you got the RR into a day off you will most likely get the RR pay unless it is for MX or WX. I also think you get the RR pay for the entire last duty period of your original trip plus the day off. I got one of those once and I was not happy until I saw how much extra pay it was......then it was OK. I got like 14 hours extra pay and was home by noon the next day.

Wilbur Wright 01-11-2014 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1556674)
My little princess put this on the grocery list...

Back me up on this Timbo. With a son, you have one penis to worry about. With a daughter, you have worry about all the penises!

Timbo 01-11-2014 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright (Post 1556843)
Back me up on this Timbo. With a son, you have one penis to worry about. With a daughter, you have worry about all the penises!

That's a fact, Jack!

Unfortunately, my 20yr. old son's penis appears to be ingrown, right between his ears! :rolleyes:

With my three daughters, I worry about all the other -dick for brains- boys out there! :eek:

I'm glad I was never like that when I was young! :D

Here's what I've been telling my three girls since they were about 13:

Remember, all men are lying PIGS! Stay away from them! They only want ONE THING!!

RockyBoy 01-11-2014 04:07 PM

Question for the GS guru's here. If you get a GS with less than 12 hours to report (on reserve) which is coded as an F, does that mean that I'm still in line for G#1 for the month or does the F#1 count as my first GS? Both GS's, but different codes. I know an out of base GS doesn't count towards your normal GS # for the month.

Purple Drank 01-11-2014 04:42 PM

The word "penis" has appeared a far too many times.
That is all.

Hillbilly 01-11-2014 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1555113)
From our Live Contract: "Exception: SEA is not a Delta hub, regardless of the number of scheduled flight departures."

Makes me wonder -who- let the SEA Exception into the contract in the first place? :eek:

And why? :rolleyes:

And maybe it should be removed now, while we are in 117 Negotiations?


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1555131)
WE did. Just another way we paid for our raises.

Was SEA a hub under the NWA CBA? Obviously it was a pilot domicile, but was it considered a hub in the terms of the contract prior to the merger?

Hillbilly 01-11-2014 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Beer Man (Post 1555852)
I live in Minnesota, this law applies if you live or work in Minnesota. iaflyer mentioned California as well and I'm sure there are others

That is not correct. There are currently 4 states to my knowledge who have these types of "Kin Care" laws and all of them are applied based on the employee working in that state. Residence in the state is irrelevant with these laws as they govern employers and their employees who work in that state. The 3 states with these laws that affect Delta pilots are California (LAX based pilots), Washington (SEA based pilots) and Minnesota (MSP based pilots).

A pilot who lives in Minnesota but is based in DTW cannot use 'state sick leave' under the Minnesota Relative Care Act. A pilot who lives in Michigan and is based in MSP can. It's all about where you are based and not where you live.


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