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Justdoinmyjob 01-11-2014 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1556760)
I know that mx and wx are not reasons for RR pay. However, if the company jams you into a reroute into a day off without exhausting other options, would that be considered "out of the company's control?"

Just wondering if we are able to hold the company accountable for taking the path of least resistance when other options were available.


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1556791)
If you got the RR into a day off you will most likely get the RR pay unless it is for MX or WX. I also think you get the RR pay for the entire last duty period of your original trip plus the day off. I got one of those once and I was not happy until I saw how much extra pay it was......then it was OK. I got like 14 hours extra pay and was home by noon the next day.


I got rerouted into off days because of Sandy. Ended up with 25hours of RR pay. Sometimes trying to decipher the PWA can give you a headache.

Big E 757 01-11-2014 08:14 PM

I just spent 20 minutes over on the AMR/LLC thread titled "Judge Silver Ruled". I will never get that 20 minutes of my life back but I would just like to say..."I love you guys...and girls".

I know the merger didn't work out so well for some, personally I stayed right where I was in % seniority but have slid backwards in my seat due to synergies, as most probably have.

I am so grateful to be a part of this pilot group!!! You guys and girls are the finest professionals I have ever known.

Ok, I'm done now. Thank you for your time.

Erik

Beer Man 01-12-2014 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Hillbilly (Post 1557059)
That is not correct. There are currently 4 states to my knowledge who have these types of "Kin Care" laws and all of them are applied based on the employee working in that state. Residence in the state is irrelevant with these laws as they govern employers and their employees who work in that state. The 3 states with these laws that affect Delta pilots are California (LAX based pilots), Washington (SEA based pilots) and Minnesota (MSP based pilots).

A pilot who lives in Minnesota but is based in DTW cannot use 'state sick leave' under the Minnesota Relative Care Act. A pilot who lives in Michigan and is based in MSP can. It's all about where you are based and not where you live.

Not according to the MSP captain rep that I spoke to on the phone.

tsquare 01-12-2014 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 1557099)
I just spent 20 minutes over on the AMR/LLC thread titled "Judge Silver Ruled". I will never get that 20 minutes of my life back but I would just like to say..."I love you guys...and girls".

I know the merger didn't work out so well for some, personally I stayed right where I was in % seniority but have slid backwards in my seat due to synergies, as most probably have.

I am so grateful to be a part of this pilot group!!! You guys and girls are the finest professionals I have ever known.

Ok, I'm done now. Thank you for your time.

Erik

++++++++++++++ I couldn't make it all the way thru. But the result was 100% predictable as far as I can tell....

johnso29 01-12-2014 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 1557099)
I just spent 20 minutes over on the AMR/LLC thread titled "Judge Silver Ruled". I will never get that 20 minutes of my life back but I would just like to say..."I love you guys...and girls".

I know the merger didn't work out so well for some, personally I stayed right where I was in % seniority but have slid backwards in my seat due to synergies, as most probably have.

I am so grateful to be a part of this pilot group!!! You guys and girls are the finest professionals I have ever known.

Ok, I'm done now. Thank you for your time.

Erik


I agree. Our merger went so smooth. Delta is light years ahead of the other two. I can't wait to see what comes of the AWA-UsAir-AA merger!! :eek:

Scoop 01-12-2014 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Beer Man (Post 1557183)
Not according to the MSP captain rep that I spoke to on the phone.


Guys,

I live in CA and am LAX based and have used this. It is amazingly easy. First I would give the CPO a heads up, and then all you do is call scheduling, tell then you are using your sick leave but it is for your wife/kid etc IAW your states family leave law.

No questions asked. My case was was before the new verification policy so not sure if they would want verification or not, but that would normally be pretty easy for these issues.

Note - Depending on your state, there may or may not be a lifetime limit on how much sick leave you can use in this manner.

Scoop

Flyinrob 01-12-2014 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Beer Man (Post 1557183)
Not according to the MSP captain rep that I spoke to on the phone.

Hey Beer,

Im going through the same thing right now. Ive made the calls, and heres what ive come up with.

There are 2 forms crew resources will want. Go to the flight ops website, pilot tools, forms and reports, forms. You need pilot certification by physician or practitioner and the pilot request for family and medical leave.
The leave cant be given prior to the due date, but if the kid comes early, it can be adjusted.

From the contract: "FMLA leave is unpaid leave, unless the pilot is eligible for other paid leave (e.g.,vacation, sick leave, accident leave).

From the company PWA section 14 Sick Leave FAQ page:

"Use of State Sick is governed by the laws of the respective state where the pilot is based, not where the pilot resides." Thats from the sick leave FAQ the company put out. I couldnt find it in the contract.

I live in a state where I can use sick leave for the birth of a child. I am not based in the state though. As a result, I have been told by the company that I will receive unpaid FMLA. If the Captain you talked to has different info, maybe he can take the steps to square this away with the company.

Mesabah 01-12-2014 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1557280)
I agree. Our merger went so smooth. Delta is light years ahead of the other two. I can't wait to see what comes of the AWA-UsAir-AA merger!! :eek:

That's because DAL/NWA had similar career expectations. If you merger with say Alaska, it will come unglued. We had a pretty smooth merger between XJ and 9E, with Colgan, not so much....

DAL 88 Driver 01-12-2014 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1556760)
I know that mx and wx are not reasons for RR pay. However, if the company jams you into a reroute into a day off without exhausting other options, would that be considered "out of the company's control?"

Just wondering if we are able to hold the company accountable for taking the path of least resistance when other options were available.

Have had several experiences with this. Jim in scheduling is the supervisor who audits the rotations for the RR pay. If the RR pay doesn't "stick" after the rotation is closed, it's because Jim audited it and took it away. In that case, I would highly recommend you call him. He's a really nice guy. Bottom line, our contract says anything beyond the company's control lets them out of having to give you RR pay. The criteria that Jim seems to use is whether or not there was another way they could have gotten you home... i.e. deadheaded you home that night instead of having you layover into your off day. If there was a flight they could have gotten you home on, my experience has been that Jim will put the RR pay back on.

I've even had this happen where I got rerouted into a day off and the RR pay didn't get put on my time card, even temporarily. There was a flight that they could have used to deadhead me home that night, so I called Jim, explained my rationale, and he gave me the RR pay.

johnso29 01-12-2014 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1557353)
That's because DAL/NWA had similar career expectations. If you merger with say Alaska, it will come unglued. We had a pretty smooth merger between XJ and 9E, with Colgan, not so much....

I was comparing DAL/NWA to AA/UsAir and UAL/CAL. All very similar airlines. But only one merger gone smooth so far.


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