So did SD let the cat out of the bag in regards to the profit from 2013? The earning results conf call isn't until the 21st but in the latest email he lists a net profit for 2013.

Most of us will agree with you, but what none of us saw coming was the 8:40 block days with 4 legs. Those SUCK!

Those are asking for trouble. That many legs will take you (the generic you) into and out of a major hub at least once...

Denny

Or Twice.

SLC-MSP
MSP-BWI
BWI-DTW
DTW-CLT

8:37 Block Time
12:16 Duty Time

We can never have less than a 10 hour layover--ever. I have had numerous layovers that were brutally reduced to 8 hours due to IROPS, and the 10 hour minimum is a game changer in a good way. "Legal to start, legal to finish" is history as well. Not every change has been improvement, but some have.

Before, we had unlimited amounts of actual block, so long as we were scheduled within 8 hours. Now, it's a hard limit of 9. Before, we had an actual max duty day of 16, now it's a scheduling limit of up to 14, extendable to 16 once between 30-hour rest periods and only with the Captain's concurrence. Before we had layovers as low as 8 hours, not they're not lower than 10.

Another amusing "there is my opinion, and then there is the wrong one" view. Just because you prefer 12-hour min layovers doesn't mean that anyone not sharing your opinion doesn't "value his health."

The new 10 hour hard minimum layover is reasonable. The rules under part 121 were not.

Sounds like the perfect opportunity to get a nice DTW airport layover ;)

I agree. I think once the dust settles on all this, we'll realize how much better 117 is than what we had.

My record before 117 was 9:35 block time in one day... plus no more reduced rest. It's far from perfect but it certainly is better.

I of course did break a record and hit 33 hours in a 7 day period to cross over into the new year, but I didn't really notice it... all the days were pretty short and efficient.

This is more of your ongoing problems with the English language Bar. Three things wrong in one sentence. First, DPA is not a union yet. Second, you or I don't know whether the sued John Doe is a Delta pilot. Third, nobody at DPA has ever said they wanted anyone fired.

These emotional menstrual outbursts of yours do not help your "ALPA at all costs" position.

No, this is yet another one of those "Bucking Bar making it up" moments after an apparent White Russian overdose.

No, just people who break Federal law by computer hacking and disrupting interstate commerce.

On another note, thank you for posting DPA stuff on this thread. I'm so glad to see that it's OK for me to do that again!

Carl