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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 1559110)
Hasn't that always been the rule? I don't think that calling in fatigued just showed up with 117.
Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 1559150)
Folks, sailingfun is demonstrating exactly what I fear DALPA is going to do.
It's a free intrawebz, however, so he can post whatever to his (or her) heart's content. If you DO want to see what the MEC has to say, call or email your rep Nu |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1559272)
My record before 117 was 9:35 block time in one day... plus no more reduced rest. It's far from perfect but it certainly is better.
We'd be sitting darn pretty right now if we still had it in the PWA. Nu |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1559276)
This is more of your ongoing problems with the English language Bar. Three things wrong in one sentence. First, DPA is not a union yet. Second, you or I don't know whether the sued John Doe is a Delta pilot. Third, nobody at DPA has ever said they wanted anyone fired.
Carl The DPA claims it is a union in it's press release, which is believed to follow the language of the complaint. The DPA says it was formed as such and why wouldn't it be? The DPA has stated this was done by Delta pilot(s) who supports ALPA. DPA "Members" have called for the firing of the alleged perps. DPA "Members" have stated in writing they plan to use John Doe subpoenas to gather documentation, which I guess would be the hard drives and, or, depositions from those of us who the DPA does not like. Delta pilots have every right to be outraged. We've been sued! It is coercion prior to your vote in April (if your spokesman is telling the truth). |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1559291)
Mods, can we name names? The lawsuit makes this a matter of public record.
The DPA claims it is a union in it's press release, which is believed to follow the language of the complaint. The DPA says it was formed as such and why wouldn't it be? The DPA has stated this was done by Delta pilot(s) who supports ALPA. DPA "Members" have called for the firing of the alleged perps. DPA "Members" have stated in writing they plan to use John Doe subpoenas to gather documentation, which I guess would be the hard drives and, or, depositions from those of us who the DPA does not like. Delta pilots have every right to be outraged. We've been sued! It is coercion prior to your vote in April (if your spokesman is telling the truth). Carl |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1559301)
Since you're the king of selective outrage, let us know when we have a right to be outraged about multiple counts of Federal law breaking.
Carl If the DPA wants to represent Delta pilots in such instances, it can't make a judgement call on which rules and who it wants to protect. The DPA seeks to shut up dissenters by placing any who dare speak up under a cloud of harassment by subpoena. A union has an affirmative duty to protect members, not sue them and try to get them fired. You don't see the difference? I wish your friends would hurry up and call this vote. This is going to be such a pleasant place to work when what you say on the flight deck can get you sued, or fired. |
What up with the stock price this week... yowza!!!!!
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 1559286)
The over 8.5 block gets you 12 hours of rest rule in the NWA contract was jettisoned in the process of the JCBA. That was pretty awesome.
We'd be sitting darn pretty right now if we still had it in the PWA. Nu |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1559291)
Mods, can we name names? The lawsuit makes this a matter of public record.
The DPA claims it is a union in it's press release, which is believed to follow the language of the complaint. The DPA says it was formed as such and why wouldn't it be? The DPA has stated this was done by Delta pilot(s) who supports ALPA. DPA "Members" have called for the firing of the alleged perps. DPA "Members" have stated in writing they plan to use John Doe subpoenas to gather documentation, which I guess would be the hard drives and, or, depositions from those of us who the DPA does not like. Delta pilots have every right to be outraged. We've been sued! It is coercion prior to your vote in April (if your spokesman is telling the truth). |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1559307)
An altitude misunderstanding, or inadvertently taking the wrong taxiway is breaking a Federal Regulation.
Carl |
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 1559285)
Sailing does NOT speak for the MEC in any way, shape or form. It's a free intrawebz, however, so he can post whatever to his (or her) heart's content. If you DO want to see what the MEC has to say, call or email your rep Nu I did email my reps when I first found out about this (when an email from an SLC rep was posted on another forum). I exchanged multiple emails with all four of my reps. Three of the four seemed to be too busy playing politician to directly answer my concerns. Lots of dancing around it, but no direct answers from the three. However, I did speak to one of them on the phone after he indicated via email that he agreed with me and wanted to call me. This particular rep gets it. He said he was going to call the SLC rep, presumably to straighten him out. I have no idea whether that happened or not. During the email exchange with my reps, the chairman of the scheduling committee got copied in on it. He wrote me and was crystal clear that his view is the 8 hour sleep opportunity rule means 8 hours behind the door. If the chairman of the scheduling committee is telling people this, then I'm pretty sure it is (at least at this time) the official interpretation of the MEC. And since that interpretation is a clear violation of the FAR, I decided to do what I could to bring this issue to light. So here I am. Hopefully, by shining a bright light on this, some of the cockroaches will have to scatter for the shadows and all that will be left is the truth. |
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