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Rudder 01-15-2014 03:07 PM

Have never understood the angst this company has for us being either fed or rested for our flights while all the time regurgitating safety safety safety.

Such a crock!

qball 01-15-2014 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Rudder (Post 1559942)
Have never understood the angst this company has for us being either fed or rested for our flights while all the time regurgitating safety safety safety.

Such a crock!

Your quarterly CQ disc provides immunity from fatigue and hunger.

Carl Spackler 01-15-2014 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1559358)
Carl,

What anyone will remember about the DPA drive is that the DPA began by suing.

Lets see, they hire USAPA's law firm and next ... .

Bar,

That's like saying: what anyone will remember about ALPA is that ALPA tried to bust the union of their in-house clerical workers.

Let's see, a union that tries to bust another union, and next...

Carl

scambo1 01-15-2014 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by qball (Post 1559948)
Your quarterly CQ disc provides immunity from fatigue and hunger.

The last time I ate my quarterly CQ disc, not only did I feel energized and well fed, but I pooped the completion code.

It saved a lot of keystrokes.

Purple Drank 01-15-2014 04:17 PM

Hypothetical situation:

I'm flying with Capt Longsleeves and we get to the hotel 8 hours and 10 minutes prior to scheduled pickup.

Being the law-abiding citizen I am, I insist on 9 hours behind the door to SSSS&Shampoo.

The stalwart captain insists on making the scheduled van to "keep the operation running."

I guess I'd call and work my own deal with crew tracking, and then fill out an ASAP/call pro stan the next day. Thoughts?

Dash8widget 01-15-2014 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1559939)
Perhaps we should push for a clarification of the 8 hour by the FAA if there is some doubt about it.

The FAA has already published clarification - I posted a copy of it a few pages back. They say that your 10 hours of rest must provide an opportunity to get 8 hours of uninterrupted SLEEP - weather or not you actually need that much is up to you, but the opportunity must still be there. As others have said, it's essentially impossible to get 8 hours of sleep when you only have 8 hours behind the door. So, if circumstances resulted in you only having 8 hours behind the door (rooms not ready, transportation issues, etc.) and you accepted it, you are essentially in violation of the FAR since there is literally no way that you had an opportunity for 8 hours of uninterrupted SLEEP.

Dash8widget 01-15-2014 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1559985)
Hypothetical situation:

I'm flying with Capt Longsleeves and we get to the hotel 8 hours and 10 minutes prior to scheduled pickup.

Being the law-abiding citizen I am, I insist on 9 hours behind the door to SSSS&Shampoo.

The stalwart captain insists on keeping the scheduled van to "keep the operation running."

I guess I'd call and work my own deal with crew tracking, and fill out an ASAP/call pro stan the next day. Thoughts?

It's up to each individual pilot to ensure they get the opportunity for 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep. If you don't get it, you're not legal. Regardless of what captain Longsleeves says :)

TenYearsGone 01-15-2014 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1559886)
^^^^^ As a professional Delta pilot, I strive to be the brand and embrace our customers. When I am forced (by the company) to haul ass down the jetway with a bag of unhealthy easy-to-come-by food product, it's embarrassing and I'm sure not what we want to be purveying to our customers. What's even worse, IMHO, is walking off the jet and see a fellow pilot scarfing a Big Mac at the gate in front of his soon-to-be passengers. That cannot instill a lot of warm fuzzies with the pax.

Certainly, if we're concerned about flight safety and projecting a professional image, the company can agree to a couple of crew meals (what, maybe $10 for two pilots?) and an additional five or ten minute turn time?

+1.

Im on a roll now. Talk about professionalism, pride and dignity. The company really does not care. Next time you are on 1st, 2nd or 3rd break, enjoy the walk of shame to your rest facility which is conveniently located in the middle of First Class: real eye opener :eek:. First Off, the passengers stare you down. Second of all, creating your nest is a goat rope. Trying to snap-up the curtains and getting yourself into place, while the cabin is dim could be very challenging. The whole process is embarrassing and cheapens the First Class experience for our High Value Customers.:D


TEN

boog123 01-15-2014 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1559985)
Hypothetical situation:

I'm flying with Capt Longsleeves and we get to the hotel 8 hours and 10 minutes prior to scheduled pickup.

Being the law-abiding citizen I am, I insist on 9 hours behind the door to SSSS&Shampoo.

The stalwart captain insists on making the scheduled van to "keep the operation running."

I guess I'd call and work my own deal with crew tracking, and then fill out an ASAP/call pro stan the next day. Thoughts?

I think you answered your own question.

Purple Drank 01-15-2014 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1559989)
I think you answered your own question.

Yeah, I guess it's pretty simple after all. :D
Sometimes nice to bounce stuff off of my fellow crewdogs to "idiot proof" things.


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