The IAH-ATL and IAH-DTW flights, 717's are replacing CRJ-900's that have been doing the routes for awhile.

So will you let us all know when we have growth please? I am sure that you have some metric in mind, and I just want to know when I should be happy.

How about….. when your seniority percentile grows faster than the list shrinks. Growth to me is wide body growth, so everyone moves up, not just some churning in the mid seniority level.

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When the 717 deal was confirmed, and moreover when former outsourced routes came back to mainline, I never expected for a pilot to put it into some sort of negative context and to make it sound like it was worthless.

Well, here's the thing. We, as labor have nothing to do with those decisions. We do not buy airplanes, nor are we even consulted as to those decisions. So I guess you can choose to be miserable in the fact that DAL hasn't really bought any significant amount of them, and you can let that misery spill over onto those that are the beneficiaries of the growth at the lower end of the seniority list in the acquisition of the 717s and 737-900s.

Life's too short.

We have quite a few new captains as of late that might take exception to your pessimistic impression of stunted growth... or maybe not. The fact is, that those routes are growth from where we are at the moment. Small gauge flying is returning to DAL mainline, and at a faster rate than planned (50 seaters going away faster than originally planned.... source: LCP meeting in March)

But to get back onto my usual rant, since we have a comparatively small number of widebodies vis a vis UAL or AAL, I still find it interesting that the prevailing desires here at DAL is to perpetuate bigger pays more. So in your opinion, is growth measured in the number of widebodies on the property, or an increase in your W2 potential? Think carefully about that before you answer.

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Come on bb don't disappoint us!

Didn't say it was worthless, just never bought the "growth" part of it.