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full of luv 04-09-2014 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1619954)
This video just proves what I've been saying for years: "Any moron can drive a powerboat, and a lot of them do!" :D

But there are a lot of fools in sailboats too, look at that couple who was just rescued when their small child got sick on their 'sail around the world'.

Timbo,
Back in college, I did a sail trip from Seattle up the inland passage to Alaska, and down the western side of BC and back in the straits of San Juan, about a 5.5 week trip with only a few nights in port in a 38' sailboat.

I can't imagine bringing a 3 and 1yr old on that trip. Not to mention absolutely unsafe, if they had any issues where the kids end up in the water with lifejacket or not, they are most likely going to be swimming with the fishes.

shiznit 04-09-2014 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1619948)
Trainer has done nothing but lose money. I think it has had one profitable quarter. The extra jet fuel in the NE has kept prices down up there however it pushed fuel prices down just as much for our competitors.

Trainer isn't necessarily owned for pure profit motives. It is a leverage tool that is used in many other aspects of the DAL operation that Wall St. doesn't seem to pick up on:

Refineries make jet-A and other distillates, but they also produce propylene gylcol, when negotiating with suppliers around the country at other airports, we use our "self-supply" option to leverage better prices than the competition on everything from de-ice fluid, diesel for GSE, and jet-A. Give us the price we want or we will ship in our own. Lots of those deals end up hidden in other aspects of the enterprise.

Trainer is supposedly on track for a $100m profit this year, all the gross profits (and resultant net losses) from the last two years have been because of infrastructure and repairs. Now that those big ticket items are squared away it "should" actually be a benefit in its own right going forward.

They are also getting the Bakken crude at a better quantity now, which cuts crude acquisition by about $12/bbl. That will benefit the DAL bottom line a lot, the Nigerian cruse is much more expensive, however the market price for jet fuel isn't decreasing by that same $12/bbl on the open market.

I like that DAL is on the road to insourcing:
Trainer = Fuel Expenses
DCI = shrinking and DAL 717's (and maybe even more 717's)
ALK = cutting ground handling, shrinking CS routes, growing SEA via DAL metal
Intl. = more 333's, WB RFP, threatening to kick Alitalia out of JV/Skyteam, fighting MEA's instead of retreating

tsquare 04-09-2014 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1619967)
Trainer isn't necessarily owned for pure profit motives. It is a leverage tool that is used in many other aspects of the DAL operation that Wall St. doesn't seem to pick up on:

Refineries make jet-A and other distillates, but they also produce propylene gylcol, when negotiating with suppliers around the country at other airports, we use our "self-supply" option to leverage better prices than the competition on everything from de-ice fluid, diesel for GSE, and jet-A. Give us the price we want or we will ship in our own. Lots of those deals end up hidden in other aspects of the enterprise.

Trainer is supposedly on track for a $100m profit this year, all the gross profits (and resultant net losses) from the last two years have been because of infrastructure and repairs. Now that those big ticket items are squared away it "should" actually be a benefit in its own right going forward.

They are also getting the Bakken crude at a better quantity now, which cuts crude acquisition by about $12/bbl. That will benefit the DAL bottom line a lot, the Nigerian cruse is much more expensive, however the market price for jet fuel isn't decreasing by that same $12/bbl on the open market.

I like that DAL is on the road to insourcing:
Trainer = Fuel Expenses
DCI = shrinking and DAL 717's (and maybe even more 717's)
ALK = cutting ground handling, shrinking CS routes, growing SEA via DAL metal
Intl. = more 333's, WB RFP, threatening to kick Alitalia out of JV/Skyteam, fighting MEA's instead of retreating


^^^^^^^^^^^^^All of the above^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

forgot to bid 04-09-2014 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1619954)
This video just proves what I've been saying for years: "Any moron can drive a powerboat, and a lot of them do!" :D

But there are a lot of fools in sailboats too, look at that couple who was just rescued when their small child got sick on their 'sail around the world'.

my wife is was pretty mad about that, as she said toddlers get sick all of the time why put one out on a boat? I mean our little boy had a cold, turns out it was RSV, turns out he was out in an ambulance and rushed to Childens and then all lf a sudden youre looking at your child on a gurney and the Doctors and Nurses seem paniced. We were admitted and there for days. Its not fun. And it was really a cold and he just early on got sick a lot and we went to the Doctor a lot- but this time for him it turned in to a near killer. We didnt even really appreciate how bad it was until we randomly met a mom who lost her one year old to it.
So why in the hell would you take a little kid on a boat around the world when they are so young they will not remember anything to begin with? I hope they rescue that little girl and then rough up the parents.

and fwiw our little guy is way okay now. just be careful.

Timbo 04-09-2014 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 1619966)
Timbo,
Back in college, I did a sail trip from Seattle up the inland passage to Alaska, and down the western side of BC and back in the straits of San Juan, about a 5.5 week trip with only a few nights in port in a 38' sailboat.

I can't imagine bringing a 3 and 1yr old on that trip. Not to mention absolutely unsafe, if they had any issues where the kids end up in the water with lifejacket or not, they are most likely going to be swimming with the fishes.

That must have been a great trip, but you're right, not with very young kids. After having 4 kids myself, I can say I wouldn't want to be locked in a small cabin with a 1+3yr. old for weeks at a time, ever, let alone out of sight of land! More for my sanity than for their safety.

I might be the one jumping overboard after a few days of crying babies with nowhere to escape the noise!:eek:

It'll be interesting to hear their side of the story when they sell it to the media.:rolleyes:

scambo1 04-09-2014 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1619967)
Trainer isn't necessarily owned for pure profit motives. It is a leverage tool that is used in many other aspects of the DAL operation that Wall St. doesn't seem to pick up on:

Refineries make jet-A and other distillates, but they also produce propylene gylcol, when negotiating with suppliers around the country at other airports, we use our "self-supply" option to leverage better prices than the competition on everything from de-ice fluid, diesel for GSE, and jet-A. Give us the price we want or we will ship in our own. Lots of those deals end up hidden in other aspects of the enterprise.

Trainer is supposedly on track for a $100m profit this year, all the gross profits (and resultant net losses) from the last two years have been because of infrastructure and repairs. Now that those big ticket items are squared away it "should" actually be a benefit in its own right going forward.

They are also getting the Bakken crude at a better quantity now, which cuts crude acquisition by about $12/bbl. That will benefit the DAL bottom line a lot, the Nigerian cruse is much more expensive, however the market price for jet fuel isn't decreasing by that same $12/bbl on the open market.

I like that DAL is on the road to insourcing:
Trainer = Fuel Expenses
DCI = shrinking and DAL 717's (and maybe even more 717's)
ALK = cutting ground handling, shrinking CS routes, growing SEA via DAL metal
Intl. = more 333's, WB RFP, threatening to kick Alitalia out of JV/Skyteam, fighting MEA's instead of retreating

Absolutely correct.

forgot to bid 04-09-2014 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1619983)
That must have been a great trip, but you're right, not with very young kids. After having 4 kids myself, I can say I wouldn't want to be locked in a small cabin with a 1+3yr. old for weeks at a time, ever, let alone out of sight of land! More for my sanity than for their safety.

I might be the one jumping overboard after a few days of crying babies with nowhere to escape the noise!:eek:

It'll be interesting to hear their side of the story when they sell it to the media.:rolleyes:

Navy warship rescues family with sick toddler on sailboat | Fox News

"Oh guys, don't worry about the boat, the Navy will take care of it."

http://www.public.navy.mil/subfor/un...-explosion.gif

I mean if by worry you mean how are we going to sink it, don't worry, we got it.

forgot to bid 04-09-2014 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1619905)
A rumor I heard was that you don't really know what to do when you're in a boat that doesn't have a sail...

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enha...54297408-3.gif


weeee!

Here is the longer version, they were trying to enjoy themselves...

http://media1.giphy.com/media/Wcgf9oKkUMkE/200_s.gif

well the gif was working...

Timbo 04-09-2014 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1619982)
my wife is was pretty mad about that, as she said toddlers get sick all of the time why put one out on a boat? I mean our little boy had a cold, turns out it was RSV...and fwiw our little guy is way okay now. just be careful.


Glad to hear it!

My wife agrees with your wife. My wife won't even get on a sailboat with me, but she let me race with our kids when they were 6. The other racers called us, "Team Child Abuse".:D

Did you ever see that movie from back in the 80's, called Parenthood? One line that always stuck in my mind was, "You need a license to drive a car, but they'll let any idiot be a parent!" :rolleyes:

Bucking Bar 04-09-2014 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1619862)
The 88 does that same ####.

The 88 will even drive to the parking lot. It just can't remember where anyone on the airplane left their car.

(either that or it hates any truck that drives by a localizer antenna on an autoland and decides to take it out ... have not figured out this aspect of the 88's psychosis yet)


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