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Mesabah 04-16-2014 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1624062)
You might want to review your corporate structure...

Tell me again who owned Comair?

What scope agreement did Comair have?

Mesabah 04-16-2014 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1624063)
Not saying that it is something about to happen right now.... but if this pilot shortage thing is real, management is going to have to increase costs in order to attract quality applicants. That will severely eat into that "profit?". And I highly doubt your profit line is $2 billion. (even if your revenue is $2 billion, your bottom line is no where near that) And even if it were, DAL would probably want to sever the pay for departure contracts, and keep THAT money in house to pay down more debt.

Mi casa es su casa.

forgot to bid 04-16-2014 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1624036)
Which category? I tried a few and no dice. Seems like ours is usually one of the last to get loaded

330B was up. I chose a random one.

If you're ATL88B, expect it, what's the deadline, the 17th? Then.

Everyone else, sometime before the ATL88B guys get theirs. :(:p

Timbo 04-16-2014 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1624069)
330B was up. I chose a random one.

If you're ATL88B, expect it, what's the deadline, the 17th? Then.

Everyone else, sometime before the ATL88B guys get theirs. :(:p

That's only because they know you MD88 F/O's are really, really good at dealing with... PAIN! ;)

Starcheck102 04-16-2014 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1624031)
Not saying we should use any capital, but we better find away to eliminate the language that allows outsourcing.

Who knows, maybe someone will invent a "Mr. Fusion" for jet engines. Maybe cheap foreign pilots will become available to fly them. Maybe Sleepy Ed or another high-functioning sociopath will take over for RA and try to re-invent the outsourcing wheel.

Even if the company wants to bring DCI back to mainline, we've got to make sure they can't outsource it in the future. Put the genie back in the bottle!

I completely agree with PD. Take note of the time and date.

Technical advancements could undo all of our assumptions and degrade our profession, same thing with misguided legislation to "fix" a pilot shortage. We have to be vigilant.

Here's the difference of pay rates:

American Eagle $104
ExpressJet $97
Republic $119
SkyWest $112
Air Wisconsin $101
GoJet $97
Horizon $114
Mesa $104
Pinnacle $87
Trans States $97

AVERAGE $103

Delta E195 $154.48
Delta E190/CRJ900 $131.42

I think it's still a significant gap to breach in C2015, and I think that the odds are better for us to have a TA before the bottom finally falls out of DCI. It surely will get hairy if I am mistaken.

PilotFrog 04-16-2014 08:33 AM

I heard RA is really unhappy with how ExpressJet is run.

Justdoinmyjob 04-16-2014 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1624068)
Mi casa es su casa.


Unfortunately, I think that's wishful thinking on your part.

Mesabah 04-16-2014 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1624082)
Unfortunately, I think that's wishful thinking on your part.

Well, for at least as long as the bridge agreement exists.

tsquare 04-16-2014 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1624088)
Well, for at least as long as the bridge agreement exists.

Well now that is the crux of this entire discussion, isn't it? If you cannot fulfill your contract because of crew shortages, then those agreements are in peril. I believe that we kicked Mesa to the curb a few years ago for failure to live up to their end of their agreements. It's supply and demand going forward. We demand a certain level of feed. If you cannot supply it, it will have to come from somewhere. If the pilot shortage is true, it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to connect the dots.

LivingTheDream 04-16-2014 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by brakechatter (Post 1624006)
Just like Delta/Pan Am.

Actually, not so much. I flew with many a Pan Amer for 2yrs out of FRA. Most considered themselves very lucky to have been given a life-line at the nth hour, as their company was imploding (especially the "dirty 30").


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