Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-17-2014 | 12:34 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Where have you heard this rumor? I've also heard a rumor that DALPA will file a grievance in May if there is no resolution. The only place I've seen these rumors is on the forum, posted by hard-core ALPA supporters.
Why can't DALPA communicate its intent to us officially, if any of these rumors are, in fact, true? This whole fiasco has been entirely non-transparent.
p.s. "feel[ing]" the matter is actionable" and actually taking action are not the same.
Why can't DALPA communicate its intent to us officially, if any of these rumors are, in fact, true? This whole fiasco has been entirely non-transparent.
p.s. "feel[ing]" the matter is actionable" and actually taking action are not the same.
It is no rumor. Read our Chairman's Letter 6 January 2014. ALPA has been negotiating since then. Everything I get from ALPA has FAR 117 news (to the point I just skip to the next topic). Not sure how you conclude only rumors have been posted. What Council are you in?
There is no news (that I think you are wanting to hear) until an agreement is reached (preferred) or grievance filed (less preferred, but OK). If you want non published blow by blow come to an LEC Meeting, call your Rep, or come and ask Mike Donatelli at the 3rd May PUB Event.
What would you consider a satisfactory level of transparency? What would make you happy?
04-17-2014 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil 
I've been sitting voluntary reserve for the last couple of months. In my experience, the Company has done nothing to violate the contract. The trips I have been assigned have been assigned while I am on short call. They put me on rest after the assignment to make me legal. It's crickets while I am on long call.
While SD may have issued an obnoxious memo, he doesn't seem to be following it up with action. I think most of the violations took place in the first month of 117.
Understand, I am waiting for them to violate my contract. They haven't. If they want to give me a day off, cover the trip with a green slip and call me in for a carpet dance, so be it. I'm happy to take one for the team. Until they do it, there is nothing for me to grieve.
Did you acknowledge your short call one hour out? That is your right in the contract.
I get a short call when I come off of an X day. This short call always has started at 1200 or latter. I have to acknowledge by 0200, I like sleep so I acknowledge when assigned the short call.
It is my understanding once my short call starts I have to be readily available. If I am given another short call the following day I acknowledge within 2 hours of the assignment.
The only trips I have been given are when I am sitting short call. I will get a call towards the end of my short call putting me on rest for a trip the following day. This is not a robo call. Since I am talking to Sched's I have acknowledged.
I do not see where the contract is being broken, but I am not the smartest guy in the world.
I've been sitting voluntary reserve for the last couple of months. In my experience, the Company has done nothing to violate the contract. The trips I have been assigned have been assigned while I am on short call. They put me on rest after the assignment to make me legal. It's crickets while I am on long call.
While SD may have issued an obnoxious memo, he doesn't seem to be following it up with action. I think most of the violations took place in the first month of 117.
Understand, I am waiting for them to violate my contract. They haven't. If they want to give me a day off, cover the trip with a green slip and call me in for a carpet dance, so be it. I'm happy to take one for the team. Until they do it, there is nothing for me to grieve.
Did you acknowledge your short call one hour out? That is your right in the contract.
I get a short call when I come off of an X day. This short call always has started at 1200 or latter. I have to acknowledge by 0200, I like sleep so I acknowledge when assigned the short call.
It is my understanding once my short call starts I have to be readily available. If I am given another short call the following day I acknowledge within 2 hours of the assignment.
The only trips I have been given are when I am sitting short call. I will get a call towards the end of my short call putting me on rest for a trip the following day. This is not a robo call. Since I am talking to Sched's I have acknowledged.
I do not see where the contract is being broken, but I am not the smartest guy in the world.
04-17-2014 | 12:35 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
04-17-2014 | 12:40 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
We all know the guys who say they are "flying for health care coverage." Well, no more
I was trying to sign my boss up this morning.
Who will be the first jet that over-flys Atlanta while the FO has an EFB out trying to sign his Captain up for Obamacare/Medicare/CHIP?
04-17-2014 | 12:40 PM
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04-17-2014 | 12:42 PM
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04-17-2014 | 12:46 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Moral of the story ... the big pictures not all it's cracked up to be.
04-17-2014 | 12:51 PM
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Travel Info
Looking for info from some of you travel gurus. I will be traveling to EDI in June and it looks like we will go through LHR to get there. I tried using the myidTravel fares and they are as expensive as a confirmed seat. Anyone got any advice?
04-17-2014 | 12:56 PM
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From: Decoupled
PilotFrog, here is the PWA language. I am following the contract, not SD's letter. I think this part has been beaten to death.
d. be required to check his schedule via DBMS or VRU:
10 1) after block-in of the last flight segment of his rotation prior to his release (see
11
Section 12 G. 13. – 14.), and
12 2) no later than 0200 base time on his first on-call day following a non-fly day, so as
13 to be able to acknowledge
04-17-2014 | 01:11 PM
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Gunship Guy,
The reason the Supreme Court gets to make interpretations is because that is their job description. They are kinda unique as Courts go, don't you think?
As for precedent, there is none. Action taken under a reservation of rights is not precedent. Wiki's your buddy Reservation of rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bet a negotiated resolution happens before we could get a grievance hearing....
The reason the Supreme Court gets to make interpretations is because that is their job description. They are kinda unique as Courts go, don't you think?
As for precedent, there is none. Action taken under a reservation of rights is not precedent. Wiki's your buddy Reservation of rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bet a negotiated resolution happens before we could get a grievance hearing....
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