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04-19-2014 | 10:00 AM

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maddogmax

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Any bets on who will stay up to be the first to post on this thread starting it's 8th year tonight?

04-19-2014 | 10:03 AM

#154312

index

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Quote:

Originally Posted by groundstop

With regard to the FAR part 117, it seems to be an easy fix. Move long call to 16 hours, and we agree to acknowledge by 10 hours, giving us at least a 6 hour window to acknowledge a trip as opposed to the current 2 hour window (worst case scenario).

16 hour long call would really benefit guys that are stuck commuting to reserve.

Better yet, let's make it 18 (or more) hours. That way a pilot can check his sched before he goes to bed, turn off his phone, and then check again 8 hours later after he gets up.

I think you're on the right track though. The long call leash is going to have to be lengthened.

04-19-2014 | 10:08 AM

#154313

newKnow

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From: 765-A

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddogmax

Any bets on who will stay up to be the first to post on this thread starting it's 8th year tonight?

80 or FTB.

It would be great to see a comeback of the 80knots clamp show.

04-19-2014 | 10:23 AM

#154314

UncleSam

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From: Seasonal Help

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Originally Posted by Roadkill

Short answer-- DON'T USE THEM! They are NOT REFUNDABLE.
Now I no longer try to purchase tickets on Delta to help the cause.

Thanks RK. That's what I was afraid of. Looks like Virgin out of JFK would be my best backup. Oh wait, we have an agreement with them.

04-19-2014 | 10:30 AM

#154315

forgot to bid

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Originally Posted by newKnow

80 or FTB.

It would be great to see a comeback of the 80knots clamp show.

dude time flies. i used to stay up for the clamp show, sometimes I can still do it but i have been house broken.

04-19-2014 | 10:32 AM

#154316

orvil

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Originally Posted by badflaps

The speed line is gone? What is next, no more flight kit storage?

When is the last time you saw a paycheck in a orange envelope?

04-19-2014 | 10:48 AM

#154317

Purple Drank

Straight QOL, homie

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Originally Posted by Roadkill

, getting $4000 stolen from me administratively by the company taught me my lesson. Now I no longer try to purchase tickets on Delta to help the cause.

Once you upgrade...another 5 minutes of two-engine taxi or 10 minutes of early APU start on every flight for the remainder of your career should put a dent in their $4000.

You might not have the money...but neither will they.

But soon, I'm sure they'll use Big Data to beat us down. Another year or two--in fact, probably just in time for the next Section 6--and captains will be getting pinged by the CP: "we see your APU burn time is 20% higher than average for this temperature on this aircraft at this airport. Why don't you take a week off to think about it?"

...and ALPA will threaten to think about possibly considering a weakly worded letter to explore the possibility of a grievance.

04-19-2014 | 10:59 AM

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Alan Shore

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Quote:

Originally Posted by index

But the issue remains for the single x-day. The fact that they could (if indeed they can) just tack on 6 hours of "rest" (on your first on-call day) towards your 30/7 just doesn't seem right.

As the Company has always used even a single X-day to count as a pilot's 24 in 7 rest requirement, I'm not sure I see the issue in giving him notice ahead of time that his time off will now end at 0600 rather than midnight the night before to give him 30 hours. He gets extra time off, and it counts as his rest.

What am I missing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by index

If scheduling did assign (prospectively for this example) the first 6 hours of your first on-call day as counting towards your 30, how does this change a pilot's obligation to check his schedule on the x-day prior? My gut tells me that, by this change, the x-day is no longer the last "non-fly" day. Therefore, the first on-call day becomes the last (albeit partial) non-fly day and would therefore fall under 23 S 1. d. 2, thus requiring a pilot to check his schedule within 2 hours after the end of such non-fly day, i.e. check schedule by 0800. What say you?

If we ever get back to the last non-fly-day schedule check, I would agree with you. Right now, the Company has had to relieve us of this obligation in order to ensure that our rest on that last non-fly-day is not broken. As I understand it, the pilot goes on call at 0600 and will be assigned flying or short call beginning no earlier than 1800 -- 12 hours later.

04-19-2014 | 11:00 AM

#154319

slowplay

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadkill

Short answer-- DON'T USE THEM! They are NOT REFUNDABLE. One of the two of them implies it MAY be refundable depending on the fare rules.

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I've refunded several "Fly confirmed for less" tickets. The lowest fare classes aren't refundable (just like paying pax can't get refunded on those classes) but Y and similar classes are fully refundable. Never had an issue.

What class of fare did you purchase and what were the rules for that class? If in fact you purchased a refundable ticket, you should take it up through your CPO. $4K shouldn't just be written off....

BTW, even if not refundable they should be changeable (additional fee).