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sailingfun 04-25-2014 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright (Post 1630381)
In my unbiased opinion you'd look much better in a 765. Four day differences school vs a month of French lessons. My suggestion has zero to do with the fact that you're senior to me.

I rode on the JS while a Captain was getting A320 IOE. The check airman kept repeating two sentences over and over. "Here's another thing you're not going to like!"
"Here's another way to get get in trouble!"

Must have said both at least 15 times in a 1 hour flight. Kept me off the bus the last time I could hold it.

sailingfun 04-25-2014 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1630386)
+717 But he'd look good in the 330 also. He's a cat sailor, what could possibly go wrong?

Except I have never liked the French cats!

dalad 04-25-2014 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1630383)
Seriously? Most guys you fly with were forced to fly more in 2013 than in 2012? Really?

My pay went from $226,078 to $299,524 from 2012 to 2013. I looked back at the beginning of the year and I averaged 15.33 days off per month. Don't think I worked any harder.

NWA320pilot 04-25-2014 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1630388)
I rode on the JS while a Captain was getting A320 IOE. The check airman kept repeating two sentences over and over. "Here's another thing you're not going to like!"
"Here's another way to get get in trouble!"

Must have said both at least 15 times in a 1 hour flight. Kept me off the bus the last time I could hold it.

You are right an Airbus is BAD, be sure and stay off.:rolleyes:

Mesabah 04-25-2014 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1630380)
I presume he's referring to the Pinchanickle bankruptcy. It would have happened without C12K, mind you, but having the additional 76-seaters to place at Pinnacle (plus the SSP sweetener) was what allowed DAL to get their regional "cost reset" without the 9E pilots just burning the place down. I argued at the time that the 9E BK was the actual "fleeting opportunity" behind C12k. But it's a stretch for a 9E guy to blame the paycuts on C12k. They were already BK and if C12k hadn't passed, DAL likely would have done a controlled shutdown to retire 50-seaters unilaterally.

The 9E bankruptcy didn't just fall into the lap of Delta.

sailingfun 04-25-2014 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 1630391)
You are right an Airbus is BAD, be sure and stay off.:rolleyes:

Like the trips and like the pay on the 330. Here however is a statement in response to airbus thinking about new software to take the pilot even further out of the loop after af447.

Programming an aircraft to effectively recover itself has even been discussed at a “philosophical level,” though Boeing’s mantra remains to leave the pilot in charge, he said.

Note that is not air buses mantra.

FrankCobretti 04-25-2014 01:32 PM

Can someone who has been there brief me in on the process for getting vacation assigned after returning from mil leave? Will I just swing by scheduling and tell them, "Hey, yeah, can you get me the following weeks off? That'd be great."

NERD 04-25-2014 01:46 PM

Bingo! We are going to have a ton of training in the coming years. We deserve the best training by the best instructors. One accident or hull loss pays for a lot of instructor pos space and hotels. I Want my instructor to have years on the plane(not years in retirement and teaching a plane he hadn't flown since the late 80s)nor do I want a maddog Fo teaching me the 777 so he can be home every night and get paid the override. The company can afford this. How Bout not paying the override to guys that can't hold the equipment and have guys with experience and actively flying the equipment teach. Give them a override of 15% or so + hotels and positive space.

Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 1630385)
Guess we will have to agree to
disagree..... I have experienced the difference in quality of instruction between someone who has experience on the plane verses experience flying the box. Just saying.


Elvis90 04-25-2014 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1630388)
I rode on the JS while a Captain was getting A320 IOE. The check airman kept repeating two sentences over and over. "Here's another thing you're not going to like!"
"Here's another way to get get in trouble!"

Must have said both at least 15 times in a 1 hour flight. Kept me off the bus the last time I could hold it.

If you simply understand that you're flying a computer, it becomes much simpler. You just have to understand its programming. I enjoyed the 320 for the year I was on it. Most guys I know who flew it want to stay on it. The only thing you have to fight is complacency.

Remember that you're two clicks away from making it fly like a DC-9.

Purple Drank 04-25-2014 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1630368)
No, it's that I took a 30% pay cut from C12K, and it would be nice to know that that money went to other pilots wouldn't it? Instead, DALPA gave it to the company, that is a legitimate *****, is it not?

Do you work at Delta?
if not, I invite you to sit down and ****.


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