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80ktsClamp 05-23-2014 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1650426)
With the 2 hour commute. Yes.

Forgive me, but your logic really confuses me.

12 hours notice= 14 hours to earliest report. (new system)

10 hours notice+commute= 12 hours to earliest report. (old system)

Please explain how the new thing is worse.

80ktsClamp 05-23-2014 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1650416)
You certainly have the right to that opinion, and maybe I'm the only one that feels this way. But when I read your first few posts on this, I was pretty jazzed. I was ready to high five my reps and send thank you emails to the MEC and the admins. Then the synopsis came out with Donatelli's love letter attached and I said, YGTBSM! Then your posts began to change as you started to express misgivings. Then you just stayed quiet until the actual language came out.

That's the timeline I recall Clamp. I don't think " you know who" served you well. It appears to me that he used you as a device to manage the forum.

My two cents.

Carl

You like to make things conspiratorial, Carl. That's a pattern with you and sometimes it's not as deep as you think it is. My fault was a misinterpretation that the CDOs were more restricted than they were. My own interpretation, which I think was still valid, was that it would improve the overall trip mix.

I went more quiet because there was no new data, and I couldn't go any further with my interpretation until I had more data. That's how it went.

Carl Spackler 05-23-2014 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1650432)
You like to make things conspiratorial, Carl. That's a pattern with you and sometimes it's not as deep as you think it is.

Nothing conspiratorial about connecting dots clamp. Sorry if you see a pattern.


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1650432)
My fault was a misinterpretation that the CDOs were more restricted than they were.

Misinterpreting what information? You were pumped about information that nobody but reps had. That's my only point, not any perceived misinterpretation on your part. He didn't give you all the information...just the info that would help you to manage the forum miscreants.


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1650432)
My own interpretation, which I think was still valid, was that it would improve the overall trip mix.

If you say so.


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1650432)
I went more quiet because there was no new data, and I couldn't go any further with my interpretation until I had more data. That's how it went.

If you say so.

Carl

Alan Shore 05-23-2014 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1650429)
F
orgive me, but your logic really confuses me.

12 hours notice= 14 hours to earliest report. (new system)

10 hours notice+commute= 12 hours to earliest report. (old system)

Please explain how the new thing is worse.

I think he's saying that, under the old system he commutes to base during the first 2 hours of his short call, and can commute home 10 hours later. Under the new system, he must wait 12 hours after he commutes in to commute home.

On the flip side, he'll get 2 more hours notice to set up the commute, assuming the last-minute assignment to short call.

Justdoinmyjob 05-23-2014 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1650436)
Nothing conspiratorial about connecting dots clamp. Sorry if you see a pattern.



Misinterpreting what information? You were pumped about information that nobody but reps had. That's my only point, not any perceived misinterpretation on your part. He didn't give you all the information...just the info that would help you to manage the forum miscreants.



If you say so.



If you say so.

Carl

Carl,
What reason do you have to not believe what Clamp posted? He said what he said, but you don't believe him. You always demand proof from others when they post stuff you do not agree with and accuse them of posting opinion disguised as fact. Isn't your disbelief of Clamp's statement just your opinion?

Just wondering why you get a pass on what you demand of others.

80ktsClamp 05-23-2014 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1650450)
I think he's saying that, under the old system he commutes to base during the first 2 hours of his short call, and can commute home 10 hours later. Under the new system, he must wait 12 hours after he commutes in to commute home.

On the flip side, he'll get 2 more hours notice to set up the commute, assuming the last-minute assignment to short call.

That makes sense. I rarely called for early release since I was just around... is there anything in the new LOA that prevents early release?

Hawaii50 05-23-2014 07:33 PM

Oh boy Carl's back! Are those helicopters black?

Carl Spackler 05-23-2014 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1650455)
Carl,
What reason do you have to not believe what Clamp posted? He said what he said, but you don't believe him.

I didn't say I don't believe him. I'm skeptical about his perception of what happened with his friend who was giving him unreleased information. But I believe that he believes it happened the way he says it did.


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1650455)
You always demand proof from others when they post stuff you do not agree with and accuse them of posting opinion disguised as fact.

I've done that to people I agree with too. I ask for proof from anyone I suspect of pulling things out of their backsides.


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1650455)
Isn't your disbelief of Clamp's statement just your opinion?

Yes...if I disbelieved Clamp. See above.


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1650455)
Just wondering why you get a pass on what you demand of others.

So you want me to submit proof that I'm skeptical? OK: "I'm Skeptical."

Carl

Carl Spackler 05-23-2014 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 1650487)
Oh boy Carl's back!

Only for a few more days, then I gotta go back to occasional lurking.


Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 1650487)
Are those helicopters black?

Care to actually debate things...or just dismiss people by insinuating insanity?

Carl

Hawaii50 05-23-2014 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1650496)
Only for a few more days, then I gotta go back to occasional lurking.



Care to actually debate things...or just dismiss people by insinuating insanity?

Carl

Not much to debate. I see you still enjoy insulting other members and questioning their integrity though. Keeps things interesting I guess.


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