I'd encourage anyone to go to a PUB event if you want to hear MD talk about C2015. It's clear that he expects big returns but needs participation. ALPA PAC is a cornerstone that needs reinforcement if we are to have jobs to get raises for. Go to a PUB. Free beer.

I don't need survey results to cast my votes during memrat. With all due respect to my fellow pilots, my vote will be based on what is best for my family, not yours, and I expect nothing else from any other pilot. Given that, why do I need to kknow what anyone else put in his survey?

You ASS/U/me... that since you aren't reading about it in the NYT that we are not talking. I don't know whether we are or aren't. I am not one in the know, and here's a flash for you... neither are you. You want inside information public, that's what your boy says he would do... right? But like our fearless hopey changey president has found out, Gitmo wasn't that easy to close. Your tactic is to throw rocks until you are satisfied. Good luck with that strategy. And "worship" is a stupid word, even for you to use. I respect his business acumen, and especially in this business. He has made me a nice chunk of change for retirement, which I appreciate very much.... but worship is hardly what I would call it. He "wins" for all the reasons you stated, but he doesn't win every battle. He also wins because a lot of his competition is not as competent as he is or as well positioned as DAL. So then to be fair, you have to make those comparisons to OUR competition. Go ahead, and give me an example of another pilot group that has exceeded us in every category... just like you just said Mr Anderson has done to his competition.

Contract 2012 reduced not increased the number of 76 seaters allowed. Looking at the companies current fleet plan it appears they could have executed the current fleet plan with minor time changes under the old contract. Remember they could go to 255 76 seaters under the old contract. It now appears they don't plan to get near the new number. We could be still waiting to be allowed into the mediation process. Instead we are 9 months away from openers on the next contract.

Because it's a way to judge how well our union works for us. Since DALPA does not set goals the survey is what we can use to judge how successful they are at doing their job. Baring that, they operate with freedom to not be measured against any defined metric.

I have the same response to both posts: Who cares?

Do.you believe our concessions are still necessary?

I'm all for giving credit where credit is due, but claiming the 717s came on board due to C2012 is like Obama saying he inspired the troops to make that landing at Normandy.

Is he setting up an excuse already? "We couldn't deliver a good product because you didn't give enough to the PAC."

I think at this point, anyone who says 717s hinged on C12 is delusional. That doesn't even make a good urban legend anymore and does highlight "spin" from DALPA for C12.