Sailing,

You seem to be a man in search of an argument that isn't there.

Where exactly did I say that we were the only employee group that suffered? Where did I say the other employee groups haven't made sacrifices? :confused:

In fact, I think I said we've given more than our fair share. Which, you should see, by it's very nature, implies that other groups gave in some way, as well. Ie. Our share was only a part of what the company got, get it?

For you to insinuate that I don't acknowledge what the non-pilot employee groups "have been through" when there is nothing I have said to indicate that is how is feel, is disrespectful and misleading on your part.

Before going off the deep end to protect something that isn't being attacked, next time, take the time to read what I wrote, first.


Thanks, in advance. ;)

Absolutely. :)

Well nice to see Delta is staffing the airline east of west!

Major expansion in SEA, just letting the bubbas do it!:mad:

The post you're quoting was not a direct response to your post. Go back and read the post I replied to and what he said. Everyone with the exception of management made enormous sacrifices to get this airline through the last decade.

I'm not sure what they're doing in LAX, but the expansion in SEA is a good thing but I get the angst. Maybe someone in the know has a hypothesis. Maybe a west coast 717 base is coming and thus they're not committing to expanding the current categories.

No idea. Just a guess.

Well to start there was Black Monday in the late nineties where 5000 employees were let go on one day. The ramp once was a career job at Delta that payed well. Now they are all DGS people working for just above minimum wage. Gate agents have seen a large reduction in jobs with increased automation. Flights once worked with two or three agents now have one. Kiosks replaced a bunch of jobs at the front of the airport. Many of the agents left are part time. Basically the entire ground training department was let go and replaced with cd's and flash drives. Flight attendants suffered as large or larger job loss as pilots going from 20,000 down to about 12,000 premerger with large work rule changes. Crew scheduling like the ramp went from a well paying career job to off the street hires at half the pay and benefits. I can go on and on but let's just leave it at with the exception of management the last 15 years have been ugly.

Its amazing how much flying is being done with green slips... out of Hooterville of course!

If we could just get the NY ER guys to knock off out of base white slips, we might see some in my category:mad:

It's been raining GS's everywhere. Even a few C's have gone out. I got my 1st out of base GS this month. Hope the new 117 LOA doesn't change that but I'm sure it will a little.

It will be interesting to see how it falls out. While the new LOA eliminated the company's headache regarding reserve acknowledgment, the provision that states that known open flying > 14 hours out cannot be handled by reroutes (a great provision) but instead must go through the PCS process may open up some flying.