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Originally Posted by qball
(Post 1654014)
If you haven't seen it "The West" by Ken Burns is excellent.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1654031)
You really need to go back and look at what happened to the other employee groups at Delta. Entire groups had their jobs eliminated and outsourced never to return. Thousands of other employees had their jobs reclassified to DGS or DSS or whatever the name is now at much lower pay and benefits. Staffing in jobs that remained Delta has been slashed. Delta's non pilot costs are well below their pilot costs relative to the industry. You really don't want to compare your pay and benefits to the non pilot employees if your seeking improvements!
Are you proposing that an airline can operate without pilots? Or is it that pilots are as replaceable as cabin cleaners or ground service? |
Originally Posted by Big E 757
(Post 1654026)
Are you a Chicago guy New? I saw you're a sox fan which I don't agree with, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Where are you based? I am from Chicago, but don't live there anymore. Which as you know means nothing for my sports allegiance. Go Bears. Go Bulls. Go Hawks. Go White Sox. And Go - whoever is playing the Cubs! :D |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1654031)
You really need to go back and look at what happened to the other employee groups at Delta. Entire groups had their jobs eliminated and outsourced never to return. Thousands of other employees had their jobs reclassified to DGS or DSS or whatever the name is now at much lower pay and benefits. Staffing in jobs that remained Delta has been slashed. Delta's non pilot costs are well below their pilot costs relative to the industry. You really don't want to compare your pay and benefits to the non pilot employees if your seeking improvements!
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Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1654036)
I have to wonder why you felt the need to post this.
Are you proposing that an airline can operate without pilots? Or is it that pilots are as replaceable as cabin cleaners or ground service? |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1653982)
25 7ER FO positions??????????????? You newbies hit a lottery
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1653982)
25 7ER FO positions??????????????? You newbies hit a lottery
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Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1653985)
But, before we, as a pilot group, agree to anything to help the company I think we have to ask ourselves if it's absolutely necessary.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1654031)
You really need to go back and look at what happened to the other employee groups at Delta. Entire groups had their jobs eliminated and outsourced never to return. Thousands of other employees had their jobs reclassified to DGS or DSS or whatever the name is now at much lower pay and benefits. Staffing in jobs that remained Delta has been slashed. Delta's non pilot costs are well below their pilot costs relative to the industry. You really don't want to compare your pay and benefits to the non pilot employees if your seeking improvements!
I'm always willing to learn. Give me some examples. Who had their careers turned into a job? What kind of life were they looking at having in the 80's & 90's and how has that changed now? Thanks in advance. (No exclamation needed.) |
Originally Posted by qball
(Post 1654014)
If you haven't seen it "The West" by Ken Burns is excellent.
I watched some of the World War series last night...seemed like history for people with attention deficit disorder. Pretty darn thin on content, but if you're going to do two world wars in three episodes, you probably don't have much choice. The "acting" was pretty awful. |
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