A new update has been sent out correcting their previous statement, FWIW.

 

You too? Sweeeeet

 

It doesn't matter if we ARE entitles these days for a couple reasons

1- can't get through to Crew Acc. I had to call CPSC, who in turn emailed scheduling, who in turn WALKED the email down to Crew Acc. We need to start complaining LOUDLY about the lack of access to Crew Acc during IROPs.

2- when the schedulers for the Md88 see an FO - they reroute us. No way in h*ll will they let an FO lay over in ATL. We need DALPA to scream loudly to have the company increase the PBS staffing formula for some of our categories.

Also - I suggest we have the company allow us to have "preferences" for domicile layovers like we do for training. Will you need a hotel? Yes or no. Will save some time and stress - with pilots and the crew acc folks

 

Agreed. This is for pilots who live in base as much as commuters. I have been stuck away from base without a hotel room due to my flight out cancelling. This happens to ATL based crews flying through NYC frequently as well as NYC crews flying through ATL. It is frustrating and embarrassing. I have worked for three different airlines and this is the only one where I have ever found myself at a layover with no hotel assigned and no way to get a hold of anyone without sitting on hold for an hour. The irony in this is that this is by far the best company I have ever worked for. That tells me that these situations should not happen. Our system needs fixed. The company that runs crew accommodations needs to be replaced, and these jobs need to be brought in house.

 

So, what I am gathering from your statement though is that IF our MEC decided to fight a traditional battle with the company for C2015, we'll lose dearly in the end because things are about to change? All of it centered upon that pesky first section of the contract?

So we're the British lining up shoulder to shoulder to charge a hill in WWI that is manned by German machine guns? Or we're like Detroit UAW workers decades ago fighting for more compensation as GM unloads robots that can build cars better, faster and without any Monday hangover issues?

"Welcome on board Skyteam Airlines, this leg from Tampa to Atlanta was brought to you by Delta Air Lines, if your next leg from Atlanta is to the other side of the world then you will probably be on a brand new A380 or 777-300 obviously flown by another Skyteam partner."

 

Carl,

As I stated, a start is to include the Delta MEC in "recognition" so that Delta is bound to negotiate "Delta flying" with the pilots of "Delta Air Lines."

 

It's too bad they don't just contract with a hotel area 30-45 minutes away from the airport and use the employee parking lot buses to move crews there. I've seen those buses be used to pick employees up coming off a 738 at the FBO on the north side of the airport.

 

What are we going to give up to get that?

I doubt "nothing" would fly further than an MD-88... [help me out here Bar]

 

I agree. But I'm afraid ALPA will not allow that. It would give DALPA too much control over their own Section 1. How do we get around that?

Carl

 

So if Bar ran the MEC and fought this worthy battle he'd be up against the company and ALPA National?

This is a trick jedi mind trick question right?