Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-18-2014 | 03:13 PM
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08-18-2014 | 03:16 PM
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To be exact, the $$$ were not quoted as to what they were related to. I do agree that it's past time for classification.
08-18-2014 | 03:18 PM
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08-18-2014 | 03:20 PM
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There are a LOT of things that we should consider/factor in to the crafting of our opener next spring. How it will affect the "reputation" we have with our non-pilot co-workers, OR how "arrogant" they will view our position should NOT be one of them!!!
So, why not take a break?? Geez, you're on here every fricking day, pretty much all day. Turn of the computer and re-read Flying the Line. See if you can find the part about our predecessors worrying about offending their non-pilot coworkers in their contract negotiations. Report back.....after a healthy break.
08-18-2014 | 03:41 PM
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No it's not. My "advice" on that has nothing to do with being represented by ALPA or not represented by ALPA. It is simply advice, based on my experience and observations, designed to keep a new hire out of trouble in the first place.
I've seen first hand how management takes a dim view of anyone who is critical of ALPA. Openly supporting DPA is obviously critical of ALPA. I simply don't think that's something that would be smart for a probationary pilot to do at this company. I'm not surprised that some here would try to spin it in an effort to play "gotcha."
I've seen first hand how management takes a dim view of anyone who is critical of ALPA. Openly supporting DPA is obviously critical of ALPA. I simply don't think that's something that would be smart for a probationary pilot to do at this company. I'm not surprised that some here would try to spin it in an effort to play "gotcha."
08-18-2014 | 03:45 PM
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Who the hell else would he be advocating for, if not for pilots? Compensation is important. Wow. No ****, sherlock.
Why would he need to say that, unless there was another constituency he was trying to please that didn't include pilots?
08-18-2014 | 04:00 PM
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08-18-2014 | 04:00 PM
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T, I'm with you. This place is starting to suck again. Maybe this will brighten you day.
How bout some 16th National Championship Underboob?
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Or some Big 10 underboob in honor Council 54?
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And for Buzz and all the guys who waste their Sunday's watching the Chickified NFL theres this.
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Can we can the constant bickering and talk about important stuff?
How bout some 16th National Championship Underboob?
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Or some Big 10 underboob in honor Council 54?
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And for Buzz and all the guys who waste their Sunday's watching the Chickified NFL theres this.
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Can we can the constant bickering and talk about important stuff?
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08-18-2014 | 04:15 PM
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08-18-2014 | 04:46 PM
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I respectfully disagree. By stating that the profit sharing for 2014 and 2015 are not yet known, and by adding a footnote to the 10% stating that it is an estimate, they are treating it as a conservative guess as to what may happen.
The reader (me, in this case) was left to draw his own conclusions as to the likelihood of the estimate and the desirability of placing this amount of my compensation at risk. Hopefully, the survey will give me an opportunity to express my views on that subject. If not, I will let my rep know how I feel on the subject.
Agreed. Keep in mind that the document we've been discussing is the Contract History, which showed the history (duh) of our two airline pilot contracts over the past 20 years or so. I recently received the Contract Comparison (I assume we all did) that provides the comparison with our peers.
The reader (me, in this case) was left to draw his own conclusions as to the likelihood of the estimate and the desirability of placing this amount of my compensation at risk. Hopefully, the survey will give me an opportunity to express my views on that subject. If not, I will let my rep know how I feel on the subject.
Agreed. Keep in mind that the document we've been discussing is the Contract History, which showed the history (duh) of our two airline pilot contracts over the past 20 years or so. I recently received the Contract Comparison (I assume we all did) that provides the comparison with our peers.
Several pages pack (whew, it's been busy here) I asked you about your thoughts on combining the JV non-compliance into Contract 2015.
You stated they should be separate issues and resolved independently. (Please correct me if I'm wrong about your answer).
We agree on that issue.
My fear is that these items will NOT be resolved as independent issues and the JV non-compliance will be folded into C2015 and dismissed.
I have informed my MEC reps this would be unacceptable. I encourage others to do the same.
Follow up question,
I quoted you above about profit sharing. Your sentence (in bold) concerns me. You claim profit sharing is a "risk" in compensation. Are you encouraging reducing profit sharing in order to increase pay rates when we negotiate Contract 2015?
Just so it's clear, my question is:
Do you support a reduction in company profit sharing in order to gain an hourly pay rate increase when we negotiate Contract 2015?
Thanks for your insights and I'm curious of your thoughts.
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