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Sink r8 08-27-2014 09:34 AM

Sitting across the table for C2015 negotiations:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-...144000612.html

Interesting. It's going to take a very open-minded person that looks at the value of our contribution to the enterprise's success, and delivers a commensurate contract that is fair to the company and the pilots.

If you look at the InFlight approach to management style, unions, contracts, and pilots, it seems like quite a transition to make. In our case, she's going to need to be smart and pragmatic, to deliver something that works. Anything else, and it's going to galvanize the group. My fear is egos getting in the way, and a narrow-minded, FA-centric approach, which would set everything back.

Let's see how smart she is at navigating this.

LivingTheDream 08-27-2014 09:35 AM

Cleaning out the basement for a renovation and came across a bunch of flight manuals. I have Natops T34B, C9B, and C1A (going to keep the T28, A4 & A7 books) along with every Delta manual I ever had (727, 737-300G, 737-800, MD11, 777, 767, 757).

Going to toss them all. If any Delta pilot wants some/all, PM me... catch is you have to come to Newnan to get them.

sailingfun 08-27-2014 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1713763)
T, you should bid narrow body domestic and do a 4 day trip with 17 legs on it. 5 legs a day is great after waking up at 0330! Just for fun bid RES for a few months in a row. You obviously will not do that, but if you did, you might see things a bit differently.

We have all done those trips. You seem to forget that everyone starts at the bottom. I used to get assigned 4 day trips with 3 east coast layovers all with 4 to 5am pickups. Waking up at midnight to 1 am body time 3 days in a row to fly 4 legs was not fun. It was a big consideration in my decision to move back east. We were able to eliminate those trips with better rules and a 727 that was almost planted in the pine trees 10 miles short of the runway in ATL.
We also used to do tag ons to all nighters from the west coast. Always fun to fly all night from SFO to ATL and then sit for two hours and fly to TPA. Amazingly enough we had guys ***** when ALPA was able to stop that practice because now the trips paid less!

sailingfun 08-27-2014 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1713761)
does 96 hours count?

Forced or did you yellow high during the month?

sailingfun 08-27-2014 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1713782)
Cleaning out the basement for a renovation and came across a bunch of flight manuals. I have Natops T34B, C9B, and C1A (going to keep the T28, A4 & A7 books) along with every Delta manual I ever had (727, 737-300G, 737-800, MD11, 777, 767, 757).

Going to toss them all. If any Delta pilot wants some/all, PM me... catch is you have to come to Newnan to get them.

You might throw them on ebay. Prices might surprise you.

forgot to bid 08-27-2014 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1713757)
How is it that we have 500-600 new captains in the last year and I've moved up in the 88B cat about 15 numbers,

We've added about 65% of that to the actual list by September. Hopefully it will increase to 100% of what is being implied.

sailingfun 08-27-2014 09:46 AM

Just to put some reality into the hours worked here are some numbers. The average Delta pilot flew in the 40 to 42 hour a month range from 200o to 2005. Post chapter 11 that jumped to 52 hours or almost 20 percent more. That number has slowly dropped as we incrementally gained improvements. In 2013 the number was 41.9 hours up slightly from 2012.

Mem9guy 08-27-2014 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1713753)
Don't look at the % of flights operated by DCI carriers, you'll scare yourself!

I have seen that percentage and that is bad enough. It's been said on here that Delta is in the business of selling passenger seat miles, and I still wonder what percent of the seat miles for sale are flown by mainline Delta pilots.

RockyBoy 08-27-2014 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1713793)
Just to put some reality into the hours worked here are some numbers. The average Delta pilot flew in the 40 to 42 hour a month range from 200o to 2005. Post chapter 11 that jumped to 52 hours or almost 20 percent more. That number has slowly dropped as we incrementally gained improvements. In 2013 the number was 41.9 hours up slightly from 2012.

You have the numbers on just those who are RES pilots?

scambo1 08-27-2014 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1713788)
Forced or did you yellow high during the month?

No high yellow. but in the interest of full disclosure, the first trip was a greenslip so it doesn't show on/change the raw value.

IMO, what really happened is while I was trying to roll the thunder, I got caught by capped x days and stuck with where my off days were thereby losing control of anything after that.


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