Any profit sharing?

 

No, but it is a good idea to have a passport on her in case the airline screws up. Like when we put a UM on a flight to FCO instead of MCO.

 

Doug and Mesebah,

Thanks guys! Much appreciated.

 

If that's true, we're set up for significant gains IMO. Just getting the insane old Airways pay rates off the table, much less replaced with something higher than we have now, sets us up for significantly more than 4/8/3/3.

I'm far more concerned with what some may expect us to have to "give up" to get whatever we end up seeing in any TA. If AA exceeded our pay by 5% and did it with a higher B fund percentage, higher vacation and other credits, and didn't sell scope to get anything, we should be able to pattern bargain significantly higher in all areas than where we are now without "paying for it" ourselves.

 

I don't have my contract comparison in front of me. Does anybody have an educated guess on what the numbers might look like in this scenario?

 

Still, not a reason to not put in some restrictions for the protection and defense of law-abiding citizens who do not desire travel to west African countries. And more reason to have better border security that some would like to avoid.

 

I don't look forward to the day Delta pilots are on the cover of ALPA magazine with the same "smile" as the Midwest express pilots. We gotta get a handle on this intl codeshare business. We need to be taking VA flying over cankles and all.

 

Thanks Scoop. I appreciate the info!

 

I think Richard Anderson is going to be on CNBC tomorrow (10/16) sometime between 6am - 9am. Talk about Ebola and Delta strategy going forward. I don't get up that early, so I'm going to record it.

 

What I just cannot understand is why everybody keeps interjecting an airplane type into the equation. Forget all about shiney new airplanes. Forget about big ones. If you guys haven't figured it out yet, DAL is not going to be in the super premium airplane business. If you want to fly a whale, go apply at UAL. This is about longevity based pay. You have a pulse... stay here a long time... get paid more... every year. It's that simple. WhoGAS whether it is a 380 or a 717? It... doesn't... matter... If the company decides to buy a bunch more 777s.. Great. It won't change a thing. More guys then get to fly to Dubai. Or if they find that idea repugnant as I do, they can stay on domestic without penalty. If they buy a bunch of 717s... great. It will affect the company's bottom line seat mile costs, not my W2. The company has to justify its' affect on the bottom line. I could can stay senior on the 737 and fly where/when I want. (And I'll bet you will be surprised at how many guys bid off of the super premium stuff when they find they can make the same coin flying MCO turns.) So let's say that they buy something that is more "productive" and the company starts printing (more) money. In contract negotiations, all we need to do is raise the Y-intercept of the money/time graph. Over time, it has gotten waaaaaay too complicated, and it is a broken model now because we do not have a DB retirement plan.

And your last sentence is interesting. Assuming that they are the same DOH, one guy might like flying a 380 and laying over in Dubai. The other guy might prefer laying over at home every night for the same coin. It becomes a QOL choice at that point, and neither is penalized for making that choice. Timbo could layover in MLB and sail on his layover.