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index 10-15-2014 02:20 PM

On another note, SD has announced another revised distribution schedule for the tablets. He now expects all pilots to receive their tablets "by the end of this year."

Although he did stick his neck out by committing to THIS year, he also qualified that remark with the statement that he "expect[s]" that to be the case.:rolleyes:

tsquare 10-15-2014 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1746962)
And if we had seniority based pay what would their current rate be?

It would depend on 3 things: Whether or not they are a captain or FO. (Sorry, but CAs have to have a higher pay line); How long they have been on the property; and whatever we negotiate for a pilot of a given seniority. It would be linear to a degree, (I think it should shallow out as a pilot becomes more senior so that the younger guys have more to put into retirement sooner. But they would not take a paycut by being bumped to a smaller airplane. The company chose to get rid of the whales. We did not. We shouldn't be penalized for their decision. (Yeah I know there's another side to that, but I have been here almost 25 years, and I have seen waaaaay more uber widebodies get parked than come on line). But by all means, let's keep hanging out hat on that one.

tsquare 10-15-2014 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1746969)
On another note, SD has announced another revised distribution schedule for the tablets. He now expects all pilots to receive their tablets "by the end of this year."

Although he did stick his neck out by committing to THIS year, he also qualified that remark with the statement that he "expect[s]" that to be the case.:rolleyes:

So what? It's just an expensive Jepps binder.

buzzpat 10-15-2014 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1746887)
Recirc fans.......off

Haha! No shiz!

Xray678 10-15-2014 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1746970)
But they would not take a paycut by being bumped to a smaller airplane. The company chose to get rid of the whales. We did not. We shouldn't be penalized for their decision. .

Interesting observation. Taking that thought a bit further, if the company suddenly decided to get A380s, we should not get a pay raise for moving to a bigger airplane. I mean, the company chose to get bigger airplanes, we didn't. Why should a pilot be rewarded for their decision?

You can't argue for a pay raise from a bigger airplane without accepting that a pay cut comes from a smaller plane.

tsquare 10-15-2014 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 1747012)
Interesting observation. Taking that thought a bit further, if the company suddenly decided to get A380s, we should not get a pay raise for moving to a bigger airplane. I mean, the company chose to get bigger airplanes, we didn't. Why should a pilot be rewarded for their decision?

You can't argue for a pay raise from a bigger airplane without accepting that a pay cut comes from a smaller plane.

That is one of my points about LBP. We have to move on from this shiney airplane thingy, because we have 18 super premium airplanes (after the whales are gone) and there are over 12,000 of us. Do the math and let me know how many will actually get to fly it for any appreciable period of time. Many if not most will NEVER fly it. So whoop tee freaking doo, it pays $500/hour for the 500 guys that are on it, and most importantly, it will do NOTHING for your retirement by the time you can hold it. nada.

And I'll buy everyone on this board a new car if DAL orders any 380s before I retire, but I'll betcha there will be more 737s... and 717s (if they can find them)... and yes we'll get 330s... but UAL and AAL have more 777s than we will have 330s, so by the current pay definition, once they get their payrates set,any new hire would be nuts to come here for anything other than the culture.

badflaps 10-15-2014 03:52 PM

Sign of the times, from DAL rumor network "Why are the seat belt harnesses on the F/A jump seat on the 757 and MD 88-90 shorter than they used to be?"................. Hmmmm....... How does int'l work? Cargo tie downs?

Purple Drank 10-15-2014 05:31 PM

What is the extent of Delta's civil liability, if any, if a passenger (or even a pilot) can prove he/she contracted Ebola on a Delta flight?

Xray678 10-15-2014 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1747020)
That is one of my points about LBP. We have to move on from this shiney airplane thingy, because we have 18 super premium airplanes (after the whales are gone) and there are over 12,000 of us. Do the math and let me know how many will actually get to fly it for any appreciable period of time. Many if not most will NEVER fly it. So whoop tee freaking doo, it pays $500/hour for the 500 guys that are on it, and most importantly, it will do NOTHING for your retirement by the time you can hold it. nada.

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I would love to hear how you transition to LBP without many pilots taking a pay cut.

That said, I would be against it no matter what. I like the option now to choose a bigger airplane and more pay, or a smaller airplane with less pay but a better schedule. I believe that would go away with LGP.

newKnow 10-15-2014 06:07 PM



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