Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-15-2015 | 06:12 PM
meh
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What are the pros/cons of allowing out of base swap board pick ups. Pilots in base should have 1st rights to the trip but if a trip sits on the swap board for a long time and eventually doesn't get picked up by anyone, what is the harm of an out of base pilot flying the trip? Out of base white slips usually end up flying trips that reserve pilots don't want and an out of base swap board would allow a pilot to drop a trip that he would otherwise get stuck flying. Seems like a win win but I realize that there are probably some negative consequences that I'm overlooking.
Short answer: REDUCED MANNING!!!
Longer answer: Pilot Greed, guys desiring to score flying out of a base they are not willing to bid, results absolutely without question in reduced manning requirements.
Summary: Anyone who desires to be able to fly out of base swaps/pickups/slips is a greedy SOB who puts their wallet above the seniority list and manning levels of the pilot group. And should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring if not worse.
01-15-2015 | 06:13 PM
Otto
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From: Turkish Pile Driver
Are you both consolidated?
I put in for YSs when I was new on reserve (and thought I was getting them because I flew nearly every reserve block), but when I looked at the Pilot Activity Statements (I think) for the time period, they were not YS awards after all.
I think the schedulers push newbs to get consolidated ASAP.
I put in for YSs when I was new on reserve (and thought I was getting them because I flew nearly every reserve block), but when I looked at the Pilot Activity Statements (I think) for the time period, they were not YS awards after all.
I think the schedulers push newbs to get consolidated ASAP.
01-15-2015 | 06:32 PM
Runs with scissors
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Another new guy question. Is it normal for a bid package to completely miss when estimating the number of lines? NYC 717 predicted 39 lines but there were only 26. Seems like a pretty big discontinuity, should I just disregard the prediction in the future or is this some sort of anomaly? Thanks.
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01-15-2015 | 06:37 PM
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From: Gold-Braided Lesser French Fort Commander
Is there any seniority consideration when awarding YS to fly when on reserve? A friend and I are separated by 1 number with a similar YS to fly on reserve submitted. He got called for a trip while I did not and he is the junior of the two of us. He has already flown a couple trips on reserve (combined 4 days) and I've only had 1 1-day. Just curious if I should've been assigned that trip or is it completely random.
Thanks.
Thanks.
01-15-2015 | 06:38 PM
Sho me da money!
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From: B25, Left
Short answer: REDUCED MANNING!!!
Longer answer: Pilot Greed, guys desiring to score flying out of a base they are not willing to bid, results absolutely without question in reduced manning requirements.
Summary: Anyone who desires to be able to fly out of base swaps/pickups/slips is a greedy SOB who puts their wallet above the seniority list and manning levels of the pilot group. And should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring if not worse.
Longer answer: Pilot Greed, guys desiring to score flying out of a base they are not willing to bid, results absolutely without question in reduced manning requirements.
Summary: Anyone who desires to be able to fly out of base swaps/pickups/slips is a greedy SOB who puts their wallet above the seniority list and manning levels of the pilot group. And should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring if not worse.
That is plain out of line...
Much more to life and choices and circumstance to judge others so harshly without knowing any facts. I am Not willing to allow out of base pickups mind you but, at some times using the laws of the system to benefit is a perk of collective bargaining. When we all agree on a secret handshake about protecting jobs with work action, and some barking sphincter takes the monetary advantage you then may have a point. For now, you are out of line...
01-15-2015 | 07:15 PM
Otto
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From: Turkish Pile Driver
I believe I answered that a few days ago, can't recall if it was you or someone else who asked, but with every 'new' category, that stuff is complete garbage, until they get -everyone- trained and converted.
And...as soon as you think you have it figured out...
Network will change it!
And...as soon as you think you have it figured out...
Network will change it!
. I just missed getting a line, but looking at the last line in the category I might have done better anyway. I'll have more days off than him but since I'm commuting to reserve I'd definitely prefer flying to hanging out in the pad.
01-15-2015 | 07:16 PM
ready for mo money
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That is plain out of line...
Much more to life and choices and circumstance to judge others so harshly without knowing any facts. I am Not willing to allow out of base pickups mind you but, at some times using the laws of the system to benefit is a perk of collective bargaining. When we all agree on a secret handshake about protecting jobs with work action, and some barking sphincter takes the monetary advantage you then may have a point. For now, you are out of line...
Much more to life and choices and circumstance to judge others so harshly without knowing any facts. I am Not willing to allow out of base pickups mind you but, at some times using the laws of the system to benefit is a perk of collective bargaining. When we all agree on a secret handshake about protecting jobs with work action, and some barking sphincter takes the monetary advantage you then may have a point. For now, you are out of line...
Short answer: REDUCED MANNING!!!
Longer answer: Pilot Greed, guys desiring to score flying out of a base they are not willing to bid, results absolutely without question in reduced manning requirements.
Summary: Anyone who desires to be able to fly out of base swaps/pickups/slips is a greedy SOB who puts their wallet above the seniority list and manning levels of the pilot group. And should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring if not worse.
Longer answer: Pilot Greed, guys desiring to score flying out of a base they are not willing to bid, results absolutely without question in reduced manning requirements.
Summary: Anyone who desires to be able to fly out of base swaps/pickups/slips is a greedy SOB who puts their wallet above the seniority list and manning levels of the pilot group. And should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring if not worse.
01-15-2015 | 07:16 PM
Otto
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From: Turkish Pile Driver
If your RAW score is the same (most likely), compare your days of availability - they are supposed to use a matching day before they move to the next day group (ie. 2-day trip to a 2-day guy, before they move to someone with, say 5 days still left on call). That might 'splain it.
01-15-2015 | 07:21 PM
On Reserve
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Short answer: REDUCED MANNING!!!
Longer answer: Pilot Greed, guys desiring to score flying out of a base they are not willing to bid, results absolutely without question in reduced manning requirements.
Summary: Anyone who desires to be able to fly out of base swaps/pickups/slips is a greedy SOB who puts their wallet above the seniority list and manning levels of the pilot group. And should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring if not worse.
Longer answer: Pilot Greed, guys desiring to score flying out of a base they are not willing to bid, results absolutely without question in reduced manning requirements.
Summary: Anyone who desires to be able to fly out of base swaps/pickups/slips is a greedy SOB who puts their wallet above the seniority list and manning levels of the pilot group. And should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring if not worse.
just say'n ...
01-15-2015 | 07:21 PM
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It sucks, but the best way to learn these things is to be burned by them. That's when you say, never again. I know I'll never forget...
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