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whitt767 11-12-2009 05:42 AM

Just did a quick scan of the category lists. (this is all FO thoughts).

NY is much, much more junior than anything else (obviously). DTW and ATL are at comparable seniority. I thought that DTW would be more junior. The 330 compares with the 767-400 in ATL, but the DTW 757 is much more senior than the 7ER in ATL. 320 is more senior than the -88. If DAL-N people want to get senior quick...go to NY! You could easily be 50% on the ER, 50% on the 73, and 25% on the 88.

forgot to bid 11-12-2009 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 710932)
Because they know pilots are dumb and will forget.

I get a bad feeling that over time we will initiate that program again and it will act as the hammer management needs to work us over.

We should just sit back and look forward to what the future will hold knowing that management lost its most precious tool in hammering the pilots.

I hope we do not give it back to them....

+1

Giving them fewer hammering tools would be a good thing, especially since we've already got this gas powered nail gun to deal with:

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...g/00011146.jpg

This friendly reminder brought to you by the Pro-Scope Club :D It looks good in our colors though, just not the RAH symbol in the corner, that kind of ruins it.

acl65pilot 11-12-2009 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 710949)
+1

Giving them fewer hammering tools would be a good thing, especially since we've already got this gas powered nail gun to deal with:

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...g/00011146.jpg

This friendly reminder brought to you by the Pro-Scope Club :D It looks good in our colors though, just not the RAH symbol in the corner, that kind of ruins it.

Simply put, DAL pilots flying DAL coded flying!!!!!!!!!

I am encouraged that it appears that our MEC sees scope as important. At least that is what I am being told out of the five star meeting this week in ATL.

forgot to bid 11-12-2009 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by whitt767 (Post 710946)
Just did a quick scan of the category lists. (this is all FO thoughts).

NY is much, much more junior than anything else (obviously). DTW and ATL are at comparable seniority. I thought that DTW would be more junior. The 330 compares with the 767-400 in ATL, but the DTW 757 is much more senior than the 7ER in ATL. 320 is more senior than the -88. If DAL-N people want to get senior quick...go to NY! You could easily be 50% on the ER, 50% on the 73, and 25% on the 88.

With the added flying out of LGA and the new terminals in JFK and LGA, NYC is going to move progressively towards being our best all around base. If they make it more friendly to commuters like DTW evidently is, which imo could happen in a key stroke, then it could very well be our best base.

ATL is a mean base. I think the people that are 2-3% in category are able to get commutable trips. And Peachtree city is not a utopia, people die there every day. And there are losts of 2 and 3 day trips, back to back trips too. I'd try NYC first if I was looking for a new base.

:D

acl65pilot 11-12-2009 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by whitt767 (Post 710946)
Just did a quick scan of the category lists. (this is all FO thoughts).

NY is much, much more junior than anything else (obviously). DTW and ATL are at comparable seniority. I thought that DTW would be more junior. The 330 compares with the 767-400 in ATL, but the DTW 757 is much more senior than the 7ER in ATL. 320 is more senior than the -88. If DAL-N people want to get senior quick...go to NY! You could easily be 50% on the ER, 50% on the 73, and 25% on the 88.

Trust me, they see it and will bid accordingly. If you do not recall the demographic data that was sent out. Something like 400 pilots live in MI.

Pre merger - NWA by State
MN 1016 PA 76
MI 465 GA 76
FL 342 IL 72
KY 29 LA 20
NJ 29 AR 19
SC 27 MD 18
WA 292 NC 72
TN 215 AK 70
TX 183 NV 58
SD 27 UT 18
OR 25 NE 15
ND 25 AL 10
CA 175 MO 53
WI 120 IN 50
CT 24 KS 9
MS 23 ME 9
OH 112 NH 49
CO 95 NY 47
AZ 93 MA 40
MT 22 NM 8
IA 22 VT 7
OK 21 RI 5
VA 82 HI 32 ID 20 Others 13

acl65pilot 11-12-2009 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 710955)
ATL is a mean base. I think the people that are 2-3% in category are able to get commutable trips. And Peachtree city is not a utopia, people die there every day. And there are losts of 2 and 3 day trips, back to back trips too. I'd try NYC first if I was looking for a new base.

:D

The drama! Are you watching early morning Soap Operas too?

:eek:

Bucking Bar 11-12-2009 06:20 AM

Drama? He's right!

... pass rate on the 737 program is only 15%. Line Check Airmen and the FAA use your Certificate to fill out a pink slip at the beginning of your ride. Boeing builds crappy airplanes compared to Douglas. Snow is 4 feet deep in Atlanta this morning. I'd go get it off the driveway, but I'm afraid I'd get shot by a roving gang. Kids wear bullet proof vests in class. My Rottweiler craps on the floor because even he's afraid to go outside.

The Delta South guys are anal. They're raving lunatics. Atlanta's the absolute worst. Bid down here and I could be your First Officer. Besides every trip duties in at 05:45 and releases you after the last RJ flight to your home town. Atlanta's just horrible, terrible I'm telling you and in the summer it is hotter than a four balled tomcat.

Oh an there is no culture. Our aquarium is just a couple of goldfish in a kiddie pool. There's nothing to do, but it does not matter, you don't want to go outside once you get your locks set, alarms on, and security cameras powered up.

forgot to bid 11-12-2009 06:32 AM

I'm laughing my butt off right now... because its all true.





Somebody missed their calling to be a Hollywood screen writer

johnso29 11-12-2009 06:33 AM

So maybe some of you contract guru's could help me out. I am currently DTW DC9B. I was DISPLACED off DTW 320B back in April. If I read the PWA correctly I will hold recall rights to that seat for 180 days post SOC.

Now if I have all that correct, lets say that I DON'T get recalled on the next AE but am AWARDED a new seat, say MSP M88B. Do I forfeit my recall rights?

It seems to me that if this was the case my recall rights would expire by the Conversion date of the AE anyway, but I was just curious.

Thanks in advance. :)

1234 11-12-2009 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 710974)
Drama? He's right!
Snow is 4 feet deep in Atlanta this morning. .

Well, at least the northerners will have one comfort....


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