I agree with that. Now that there is not a constant positive flow of information on this issue, and there are one or two posts about an opposite direction, everyone seems to think things changed. They have not. It is just the lack of constant confirmation that is scaring ppl.

FWIW, those that know more about this than you or I are stating that "SOME" of the Beach Destinations would be moved to the JAL operation and we would takeover some of their ULH stuff. I was told that not all of the beach stuff would be gone.

Devil is in the details. We will just have to wait to see what the actual deal is. Until then it is just an educated guess by matching up the data points.

You mean...there's a difference?

Carl

What's is the "beach stuff?" I don't need the rumor beach stuff. But, when you say 'beach stuff," is that Guam and Siapan or Singapore and Hong Kong?

Carl..you have a pm

You know normally I would try to come up with a funny comeback. But, the way things are going, I am beginning to wonder and it's not funny. I'll reserve judgment, for now.....

On this post, no cuteness was intended. Others posted this "sky is falling on the NWA" stuff based on the argument of poor Asian yields. You agreed with the assessment. You shouldn't have agreed, and now you post this other stuff to deflect attention.

I know you are a budding union official, but I must tell you that lately your statements have included some typical political leanings. Example, saying that this thread is probably done because some internet character says management might be listening. Then others here (including me) slam this guy for attempting to squelch debate. Then I slam anyone who could have even been remotely affected by a concern that management could be listening. Then you post that the thread will live forever. This all in about 1 hours' time.

I'm only interested in union officials who have core beliefs and are not so easily moved by the winds. I'm probably not alone.

Carl

ACL,
The "devil" is in the BLOCK HOURS flown AND THE QUALITY of those hours. DAL has a great deal of debt that they have to pay down, all the while paying for new terminals and a Billion dollar customer service redo. If you have a debt laden company that cannot afford to purchase new aircraft, you can do a JV with a company that will provide lift, feed and you reap 85% of the benefits with no addition capital purchases of additional aircraft. NWA pilots have seen this movie before. It was the near bankrupcy in 1992/93. We say the birth of the NWA/KLM code share. We have seen refurbished DC9's and used DC10's to provide lift for a company that could not afford to refleet the airline. NWA got lucky that fuel was so cheap for so long. Airline managers are historically followers, not leaders. Look to history to see how they are going to play the game.

I responded earlier...did you not get it?

Carl

We can debate "what if's" all day long. The thing is this is all speculation, educated guesses or whatever you want to call it. But we really don't/won't know jack until a deal with JAL is announced one way or the other. Before we get all worked up about what may or may not happen we need to see the deal. The best thing we can do now is contact our Reps before this special MEC meeting and give them our opinions and feedback. Who knows, maybe this meeting is not about this topic but it never hurts to provide your opinon and feedback.

Denny