Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1814726)

Dang, I'm beginning to wonder if I still have a job!:eek: I still have not received the email saying my Surface is being sent.........

According to SD's latest, the distribution window is coming to a a close.

Denny

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1814754)

Waiting to hear if he moved to the left seat to make taxing to the gate easier.

Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 1814499)

Negotiations are negotiations though and if we look at anything the company may want as a concession...

Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 1814499)

we're setting ourselves up to be iced for as long as the company can.

Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 1814499)

Take a look around at the other carriers in contract discussions and see how long they've been at it.

Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 1814509)

Why is it more leverage for us?

Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 1814509)

I don't view PS as a negotiable item so it's not leverage in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 1814509)

I do however want a lot more in the contract than we have now and the sooner we can get it done the better. Let's make some serious gains while the industry is printing cash.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1814552)

Thoughts *****es?

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1814870)

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Carl

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1814851)

Not "anything" that they may want. It's only a concession if it's worse than what we currently have. We accepted concessions during bad times. We do NOT need to accept concessions during these good times. We only need to stay within a "reasonable" range of our industry peers to keep the NMB happy. Currently, we lag the industry in every single contractual section. We lead in none. This is the time for contractual gains. Period.



See above. This kind of wrongheaded stuff actually damages the pilot group.



If you're saying you're not willing to wait, you're saying you'll take whatever management offers.

Carl

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1814552)

I think it's good we talk about PS because there is one thing to hash out, is which one you think is better:

Option A: $150K flight pay + $30K PS = $180K.

Option B: $180K flight pay.

Option C: $150K flight pay + 18% to restore to 2004 = $177K + 'at risk' PS = $30K = $207K

Option D: $150k flt pay + 18% to restore to 2004 = $177k + PS shift to 8% pay =$191.16k + $15,840 PS at risk = $207k

Option E: $150k flt pay + 18% to restore to 2004 = $177k + PS shift to 16% pay =$205.32k + $1680 PS at risk = $207k

Thoughts b!t*hes?

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1814597)

Fixed your post, added option C.

Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1814948)

I wanna play!

Fixed your post, added option D and E. :D

It's all academic(but fun), depending on the AA pilot vote and the DAL FA vote, I bet the company has a couple different options they'd like to pursue.