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OldFlyGuy 02-18-2015 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 1827517)
I used to use a fund management team, and was pretty unhappy with my results, as they mirrored the S&P durning 2008-10 almost to a "T". I stuck with them all during the downturn, and upswing, and in the interim, I read everything I could get my hands on in the way of financial advice & advisors. I read two books by the founder of the Vanguard group (THE founder & originator of low-cost index funds) John Boggle. Read any book or pamphlet he ever wrote, he says the same thing in all of them. Very excellent, easy to understand advice. One of the conclusions I came to (a real 'duh' moment) is that I am the one who is ultimately responsible for the end results of my 401k dollars. Even if I sign off and let some other entity 'manage' those dollars, ultimately, I am responsible. And don't even think for a moment that I can somehow abdicate that to someone else, and then simply go to sleep and forget about it. Once I got over that, it all somehow got a lot easier.

I manage my own money. Every 3-5 years I have a financial planner review what I'm doing; USAA does a pretty good job although they will probably try to sell you some insurance/annuity products. The last guy who wanted to manage my $ showed up at the house in a new black Mercedes. It came out in the conversation he traded and got a new one every other year. He was wearing a minimum $2000 suit, a $25,000 gold watch, a $400ish necktie.... you get the picture. I made a wild assumption he was gonna charge me waaay tooo much. OFG

orvil 02-18-2015 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by TeddyKGB (Post 1827652)
The Millionaire Next Door is a good read. Mostly common sense stuff which many people lack.

I manage my retirement myself. I do a really good job at it. After all, no one loves your money as much as you love your money.

I committed to learning how to manage my money after I lost a boatload in the .com crash. I was allowing a DAL pilot manage it. It turned out he didn't know as much as he thought he did. I figured I could lose just as well as he could. Sure enough, I have done better. I got really serious after our pensions were taken.

Don't let someone else actively manage your money. Fees will eat you alive. Do it yourself.

If you aren't going to commit to learning how to manage your investments, you should be in ETF's and index funds. At least you won't be giving most of your money to your advisors and managers.

Every one of you has the intelligence to manage your investments, you just don't have the will. It just kills me to talk to guys at work and hear them say they don't have the time. You had better find the time. This is important.

I won't go into what I do, but I will tell you it has been a journey. I've tried everything out there. With education and practice, I have developed a philosophy that is successful for me. You are always welcome to PM me and I am happy to discuss it.

The good news for me is I saved early, learned what to do with it, and I am secure for retirement.

The Millionaire Next Door is a great book. I wish they would update it. But, the basic information about the behavior of people is classic.

Purple Drank 02-18-2015 12:32 PM

Per latest weekly update: management is adding a question to the customer satisfaction survey:

"Did a pilot interact with you as you deplaned?"

looks like another performance metric for SD's toolbox.

forgot to bid 02-18-2015 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1827696)
Per latest weekly update: management is adding a question to the customer satisfaction survey:

"Did a pilot interact with you as you deplaned?"

looks like another performance metric for SD's toolbox.

Unable. Pilots were too busy coordinating a maintenance issue and even if they tried the FA was in the way because she has no where to go because the caterer is working real hard to get his job done too. Or they bolted to make a Reroute flight that was scheduled to depart 10 min after their in time.

That was my day actually, all three of those.

Gomerglideslope 02-18-2015 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1827533)
Exactly. Whether you do your own investing or pay someone to "manage" it for you, you should ALWAYS understand exactly what your money is doing.

You should never pay someone to do something with your money that you could not do yourself or that you don't understand. If you just don't enjoy investing and want to free up some time then you should pay someone, but always know exactly what they are doing.

I love it when a "financial advisor" rolls up in his 1998 Honda Civic dressed in wrinkled Dockers and goes on to tell me I don't understand how to invest so I should pay him to "manage" my money for me. :rolleyes:

I'll take a financial advisor that shows up in an old Honda Civic and Dockers before one that shows up in a Porsche and $2,000 suit every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

iceman49 02-18-2015 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1827696)
Per latest weekly update: management is adding a question to the customer satisfaction survey:

"Did a pilot interact with you as you deplaned?"

looks like another performance metric for SD's toolbox.

Should be interesting since they probably will have the flight number and date. I suppose that metric will show up on the PAS:eek:

RockyBoy 02-18-2015 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1827682)
I manage my retirement myself. I do a really good job at it. After all, no one loves your money as much as you love your money.

I committed to learning how to manage my money after I lost a boatload in the .com crash. I was allowing a DAL pilot manage it. It turned out he didn't know as much as he thought he did. I figured I could lose just as well as he could. Sure enough, I have done better. I got really serious after our pensions were taken.

Don't let someone else actively manage your money. Fees will eat you alive. Do it yourself.

If you aren't going to commit to learning how to manage your investments, you should be in ETF's and index funds. At least you won't be giving most of your money to your advisors and managers.

Every one of you has the intelligence to manage your investments, you just don't have the will. It just kills me to talk to guys at work and hear them say they don't have the time. You had better find the time. This is important.

I won't go into what I do, but I will tell you it has been a journey. I've tried everything out there. With education and practice, I have developed a philosophy that is successful for me. You are always welcome to PM me and I am happy to discuss it.

The good news for me is I saved early, learned what to do with it, and I am secure for retirement.

The Millionaire Next Door is a great book. I wish they would update it. But, the basic information about the behavior of people is classic.

^^^^^^^^^

Exactly right. Save a ton, diversify into low cost funds that you understand, don't chase returns, and you will beat almost any "advisor" that wants to charge you money to do the same thing you can do for yourself.

I tried the "financial advisor" route when I was an RJ FO and thought I was going to get furloughed. Took all the classes, worked part time with a guy for 6 months, learned enough to know that nobody should pay someone to manage their money unless they inherit a huge amount all at once.

n9810f 02-18-2015 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1827165)
Go Richard! That's really gonna get up a few craws. :)

If there was any doubt where old Northwest got its reputation for scorched earth.

dtfl 02-18-2015 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1827696)
Per latest weekly update: management is adding a question to the customer satisfaction survey:

"Did a pilot interact with you as you deplaned?"

looks like another performance metric for SD's toolbox.

"No, the very polite pilots were heads down in their Ipads feverishly looking for their military orders....I overheard them say they were called AGAIN because they took military leave on the vernal equinox when the moon was waning..."

Me. Jaded? naaah.

80ktsClamp 02-18-2015 08:26 PM

Sounds like those extra 717s are going to happen... most for flying, a few for parts. DCI is going into major shrinkage mode due to staffing issues with mainline looking for lots more planes. I'm liking this trend. :)


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