Very solid information on the 777, but marketing seems to change the plan quite a bit. It definitely is part of the current plan but will it still be in the plan in 6 months? I certainly hope so. :)

Scoop

Excellent Advice! I would do exactly this.

What's the final 717 pilots number? ~900-950?

Assuming a still-hypothetical LAX base would have, let's say, 100 pilots, where does that put the headcount projection for the summer/fall? I think there would still be a bit of room to grow either DTW some more, NYC, or LAX.

It's blue and black.

You'll understand when you're asked. It's blue and black.

Well, fwiw, they are saying they're going to shrink ATL717B in the coming months.

Gaaa...what?!? Where did you hear that? By how much?

Well, we aren't getting any more 777's so that time has to come from somewhere. Right now, DTW doesn't have a single non-DH departure for their 777 category, BUT... the 747's are going away, and a lot of their departures are out of DTW, so they might keep the DTW 777 base to back fill the 747 trips as they are parked.

ATL still has about 50% of it's 777 trips that start as DH to somewhere else, like LAX, to fly SYD, NRT and now PVG, so there might be some ATL displacements if they open LAX 777. BUT, I seriously doubt you'll see a single 777 Captain 'put in his papers' if they do open an LAX 777 base. Anyone who was going to do that would have done it a few months ago, when they were offered 36 weeks of pay to go out early. The 777 guys still here are here for life.

Damn, AE not even out and already 3 senior to me bidding LAX717A….Oh well, too much traffic anyway!

I agree. Wife says white and gold. Not sure we're gonna survive the night!

To equal whatever ATL717A is. probably with some margin I'd suppose. It would be by not back filling as FOs bid off, presumably the "summer off" crowd.

Heard that from a multitude of sources and they haven't been putting people into it either so I guess it makes some sense.