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Old 03-11-2015 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Actually, Delta is on par with UAL and AAL when it comes to widebodies. It is just that the 767 (non -400) pay 757 pay.

I have suggested to our leaders that we fix that in C2015 and pay the 767 the same as the 330/787.

Doesn't affect me as I'm not going to fly the 767. Just a suggestion.

I also believe the 737-900er and A 321 should pay ER pay in C2015.
According to the airline profiles here on APC we're not on par with UAL (I didn't even bother looking at AA, but my guess is we're just as far behind them in wide bodies as UAL).

UAL - Total 777: 129
DL - Total 777: 18

UAL - Total 767: 51
DL - Total 767: 95

UAL - Total 747: 23
DL - Total 747: 16

UAL - Total 787: 11
DL - Total 787: 0

UAL - Total 330: 0
DL - Total 330: 32

UAL - Total: 214
DL - Total: 161

UAL has a 32% more wide bodies than we do, and about the same number of pilots. How is this on par? What am I missing?
Old 03-11-2015 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
According to the airline profiles here on APC we're not on par with UAL (I didn't even bother looking at AA, but my guess is we're just as far behind them in wide bodies as UAL).

UAL - Total 777: 129
DL - Total 777: 18

UAL - Total 767: 51
DL - Total 767: 95

UAL - Total 747: 23
DL - Total 747: 16

UAL - Total 787: 11
DL - Total 787: 0

UAL - Total 330: 0
DL - Total 330: 32

UAL - Total: 214
DL - Total: 161

UAL has a 32% more wide bodies than we do, and about the same number of pilots. How is this on par? What am I missing?
From the United Airlines Fleet Plan:

Fleet Plan
As of January 22, 2015, the Company’s fleet plan was as follows:
YE 2014 YE 2015 FY ∆
B747-400 23 21 (2)
B777-200 74 74 -
B787-8/9 14 25 11
B767-300/400 51 51 -

Total of 162

I don't see 129 777s and according to the Delta webpage, we have 158.

I don't care about how many we have, I care about how many pilots are paid at those higher rates, that is what is important. With that data it does look like there are more high paying jobs at United than there are at Delta, but I don't know how they man their fleets.
Old 03-11-2015 | 08:44 AM
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Oh and I went and did due diligence on AA fleet as well. According to their plan they will have
330 - 24
762 - 0
763 - 49
772 - 47
773 - 18
787 - 12
by the end of 2015 and that adds up to 150. Again though they have a lot more 777s than we do.
Old 03-11-2015 | 08:55 AM
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I'm guessing augmented domestic operations are coming soon to a category near you. Not sure if that is good or bad?
Old 03-11-2015 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
I'm guessing augmented domestic operations are coming soon to a category near you. Not sure if that is good or bad?
Two transcon legs now need 2 captains and 2 FOs. If augmented, some will need one CA and 2 FOs.

I can't imagine the company would do it unless it saved them money and required fewer pilots.
Old 03-11-2015 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
Oh and I went and did due diligence on AA fleet as well. According to their plan they will have
330 - 24
762 - 0
763 - 49
772 - 47
773 - 18
787 - 12
by the end of 2015 and that adds up to 150. Again though they have a lot more 777s than we do.
And AA and UAL pay all these aircraft 777 hourly rates. All we need to do is bring the 767 up to 777 rates as well. It's a no brainer given our profits.
Old 03-11-2015 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
And AA and UAL pay all these aircraft 777 hourly rates. All we need to do is bring the 767 up to 777 rates as well. It's a no brainer given our profits.
It should be a priority ...
Old 03-11-2015 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Two transcon legs now need 2 captains and 2 FOs. If augmented, some will need one CA and 2 FOs.

I can't imagine the company would do it unless it saved them money and required fewer pilots.
Purple,

If you fly Lax-JfK-Lax now, there are approximately 11 Capt hours and 11 FO hours. If you fly it augmented, there are still 11 Capt hours, but now 22 FO hours. The company would save 2 hotel rooms and some per diem, but hardly an even tradeoff financially. What am I missing here?

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Old 03-11-2015 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Omar 111
Purple,

If you fly Lax-JfK-Lax now, there are approximately 11 Capt hours and 11 FO hours. If you fly it augmented, there are still 11 Capt hours, but now 22 FO hours. The company would save 2 hotel rooms and some per diem, but hardly an even tradeoff financially. What am I missing here?

Omar
Maybe if the additional pilot is a new hire it's cheaper. Otherwise I don't see it either. I could see a few of these extra seats going out on green slips. Then it's more expensive to augment a transcon big time.
Old 03-11-2015 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Two transcon legs now need 2 captains and 2 FOs. If augmented, some will need one CA and 2 FOs.

I can't imagine the company would do it unless it saved them money and required fewer pilots.
IDK. But they just sent out an email showing an example with breaks?
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