Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-04-2015 | 08:48 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,004
Likes: 0
From: MD-88 F/O
[/IMG]
04-04-2015 | 09:28 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
Please do not take the jumpseat anymore when you are positive space. Last minute jumpseaters get screwed all the time. If you have a contractually guaranteed seat in the back, use it. The oversell is not your problem. You are hurting us more than you think. There are airlines out there that require pilots to deadhead in the jumpseat.
04-04-2015 | 09:45 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,242
Likes: 0
No offence mad, but I'd prefer to just have the extra money to buy my own tickets. The positive space tickets issued by the company after the merger are so restrictive on when and how you use them. Only a few available seats on each flight and they book up months in advance. I'd also like the option to fly on other carriers where my full fare ticket is treated as any other full fare paying customer. Employee ps tickets during irops would fall so far down in the priority list.
Just my 2 cents. I'd prefer we focus on compensation and work rule improvements in c2015. No doubt ALPA and management will over inflate the cost associated with any other bonuses.
Just my 2 cents. I'd prefer we focus on compensation and work rule improvements in c2015. No doubt ALPA and management will over inflate the cost associated with any other bonuses.
04-04-2015 | 09:47 AM
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,688
Likes: 66
I always board last anyway as I don't want to sit in those seats any longer than I have to. I always drag my big bag down and hang out in the gate area. I have never been pressured to give up my seat, I always offer and make it very clear its only for a non rev and only if there are no jumpseaters. I know I would appreciate it if I were non revving with my 6 yr old or 80 year old mom if someone gave up their dhd seat so we could get on. My sons too young to be alone in the back and my mom would need help. I'm a firm believer in karma. Hockey you're too young to be this bitter at the company.
04-04-2015 | 09:55 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 20,876
Likes: 193
Completely agree. Take the seat in the back. On multiple occasions I've had the gate agent remove my seat assignment and say I had to sit in the jumpseat. This is after checking in online or at a kiosk. They are too overloaded and pushed for on-time to worry about jumpseaters.
04-04-2015 | 09:56 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 20,876
Likes: 193
I always board last anyway as I don't want to sit in those seats any longer than I have to. I always drag my big bag down and hang out in the gate area. I have never been pressured to give up my seat, I always offer and make it very clear its only for a non rev and only if there are no jumpseaters. I know I would appreciate it if I were non revving with my 6 yr old or 80 year old mom if someone gave up their dhd seat so we could get on. My sons too young to be alone in the back and my mom would need help. I'm a firm believer in karma. Hockey you're too young to be this bitter at the company.
04-04-2015 | 10:16 AM
The Brown Dot +1
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,775
Likes: 0
From: 777B
I disagree. I've done this many times, but only for non revs and only if no other jump sweaters ( online or offline). I make it clear to the agent that if a jumpseater shows up that I will take my original seat or FA JUMPSEAT even. I don't leave the podium until door closing time either to keep them honest.
Are you telling me that you would strand a nonrev by not taking the jump?
Are you telling me that you would strand a nonrev by not taking the jump?
I'm not hurting anyone. And even though I have a guaranteed ride in the back, I see no harm in helping a nonrev get to their destination by me riding up front.
04-04-2015 | 10:22 AM
The Brown Dot +1
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,775
Likes: 0
From: 777B
I would never intentionally strand a non-rev. Chances are I will have boarded with zone 1 like I am supposed to and be sitting in my seat so I wouldn't know. From what I've seen, the agent is usually overloaded and working the flight by herself and once she takes your positive space seat away, you are stuck in the jumpseat even if someone shows up. I've also seen pilots give up jumpseats to get a paying pax on even though the agent said it was for a non-rev. This is a perfect example of us voluntarily giving up a negotiated benefit. I have been told by gate agents on last minute scheduled deadheads that the jumpseat is my only option. I refused.
In no way am I willing to risk my ride just to be "nice." But I'm okay with being nice if I can.
04-04-2015 | 10:29 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,193
Likes: 255
I always board last anyway as I don't want to sit in those seats any longer than I have to. I always drag my big bag down and hang out in the gate area. I have never been pressured to give up my seat, I always offer and make it very clear its only for a non rev and only if there are no jumpseaters. I know I would appreciate it if I were non revving with my 6 yr old or 80 year old mom if someone gave up their dhd seat so we could get on. My sons too young to be alone in the back and my mom would need help. I'm a firm believer in karma. Hockey you're too young to be this bitter at the company.
04-04-2015 | 10:36 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 922
Likes: 0
From: Decoupled
You may think you are being a nice guy and your motives are pure. The next time I show up for a deadhead and the agent asks me to ride the jumpseat, I have to be the bad guy when I say no. I've had them ask me. "The pilot on my previous flight did it."
I respect their job. I know they are pushed for time. Many times, they are trying to get revenue on board, not just nonrevs. Suddenly I become the bad guy. It's a hard won privilege to sit in the cabin. It's not my choice. The Company expects me to ride in the cabin.
As a nonrev, I do not expect you to give up your seat in the cabin. I don't expect a pilot to give up the rest seat on international, either. It's the same thing. Give the guys coming behind you a break.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
