Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-22-2015 | 04:46 PM
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According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics - U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (May, 2014)
Lawyer's Mean Annual Wage - $133,470
Lawyer's Median Annual Wage - $114,970
Pilot's Mean Annual Wage - $131,760
Pilot's Median Annual Wage - $118,140
Family & General Practitioner Mean Annual Wage - $186,320
Family & General Practitioner Median Annual Wage - $180,180
** I wouldn't say "well above" Sailing, but the statistics don't show us too far removed.
Lawyer's Mean Annual Wage - $133,470
Lawyer's Median Annual Wage - $114,970
Pilot's Mean Annual Wage - $131,760
Pilot's Median Annual Wage - $118,140
Family & General Practitioner Mean Annual Wage - $186,320
Family & General Practitioner Median Annual Wage - $180,180
** I wouldn't say "well above" Sailing, but the statistics don't show us too far removed.
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04-22-2015 | 05:29 PM
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I posted the Bureau of Labor Statistics data because someone else had started a conversation based on how much we get paid compared to other professionals.(e.g Lawyer/Doctor) Rockyboy?
Frankly, OUR (aviation) profession is different in many ways and we should be compensated on our own worth, versus being compared to other professionals. If that means we get paid a similar wage, GREAT! If it means we get paid more, EVEN BETTER! If it means we get paid less, well, SHAME ON OUR CBA!
04-22-2015 | 05:30 PM
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Lots of professions spend lots of nights away. That argument won't fly at any negotiating table, which is the only place that it matters.
04-22-2015 | 05:39 PM
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Consider the full spectrum:
Consecutive nights away
Holidays
Night work
All at once, for many.
That is not the usual 9-5 job, and that's without even considering the training/certificates and skills/experience required, in addition to the consequences of mistakes or poor judgement which put the responsibilities of the profession at the highest tier: those vocations that can result in death of the employee and customers, in addition to possible equipment loss (airplane) and possible property damage.
Consecutive nights away
Holidays
Night work
All at once, for many.
That is not the usual 9-5 job, and that's without even considering the training/certificates and skills/experience required, in addition to the consequences of mistakes or poor judgement which put the responsibilities of the profession at the highest tier: those vocations that can result in death of the employee and customers, in addition to possible equipment loss (airplane) and possible property damage.
04-22-2015 | 05:50 PM
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The only argument that will fly at the NMB is pay at our competitors, and we're getting no help here. If c2015 sucks, it's going to suck because AMR and United gave us nothing to work with.
04-22-2015 | 05:52 PM
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Long haul truck drivers have us beat here, not a great argument.
The only argument that will fly at the NMB is pay at our competitors, and we're getting no help here. If c2015 sucks, it's going to suck because AMR and United and Southwestern gave us nothing to work with.
The only argument that will fly at the NMB is pay at our competitors, and we're getting no help here. If c2015 sucks, it's going to suck because AMR and United and Southwestern gave us nothing to work with.
(Edit: Meaning they're still in Section 6 negotiations, what three years later?)
04-22-2015 | 05:52 PM
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no, not my problem, but more evidence of what I was saying. I get tired of senior 777 and 747 pilots telling me I got another five years as well. For a RJ FO, that extra five years may have actually cost them money, even if they fly to 65.
04-22-2015 | 06:59 PM
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How many of you guys have kids that want to be Delta pilots? It's probably a good idea to take advantage of the pilot shortage at DCI, and get Delta to pay for your kid's training, and education.
04-22-2015 | 07:06 PM
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Consider the full spectrum:
Consecutive nights away
Holidays
Night work
All at once, for many.
That is not the usual 9-5 job, and that's without even considering the training/certificates and skills/experience required, in addition to the consequences of mistakes or poor judgement which put the responsibilities of the profession at the highest tier: those vocations that can result in death of the employee and customers, in addition to possible equipment loss (airplane) and possible property damage.
Consecutive nights away
Holidays
Night work
All at once, for many.
That is not the usual 9-5 job, and that's without even considering the training/certificates and skills/experience required, in addition to the consequences of mistakes or poor judgement which put the responsibilities of the profession at the highest tier: those vocations that can result in death of the employee and customers, in addition to possible equipment loss (airplane) and possible property damage.
"What are you doing?" he asked (as I was moving all his crap out of my seat).
"I'm taking my break." says me.
"Why do you get a Break?"
"The FAA requires us to add one pilot, and each of us needs to take a break, on every flight over 8 hours." I tell him.
"I work over 8 hours every day, and I NEVER get a Break!" says the suit.
"And how many people DIE, when you make a mistake at your job?" says this smart *** F/O.
He got quiet after that, and I almost got some rest.
04-22-2015 | 07:11 PM
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
They did like to fly in my Cub, back when I could afford one, pre 2004.
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